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All Forum Posts by: Shiv B.

Shiv B. has started 4 posts and replied 14 times.

Post: Lease End Date and Pro-Rated Rent For Mid Month Move In Date

Shiv B.Posted
  • Homeowner
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 13

@John Underwood, @Nathan Gesner, @Ray Hage - thank you for your input and apologies I inadvertently responded under my partner's profile. I have an additional question about the lease if I may. Lease will be signed September 6 for move in date September 15 and tenant will pay first month rent and SD on September 14. Should a holding deposit be collected until rent and SD is received?

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Post: Lease End Date and Pro-Rated Rent For Mid Month Move In Date

Shiv B.Posted
  • Homeowner
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 13

Hello BP, I have a new tenant moving in September 15 on a twelve month lease. Would the lease end September 14, 2024 or can I go September 30, 2024 - making it a twelve and a half month lease?
Also is it advisable to collect pro-rated first month rent or collect full first month rent and SD up front and pro-rate second month rent?
Thanks in advance for input.

Post: Abandoned Property After Tenant Has Vacated

Shiv B.Posted
  • Homeowner
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 13

Thank you all for your responses. @Michael Smythe

@Michael Smythe , @Richard F. yes I have proof they messaged to say where the keys were being left when they vacated. I've taken detailed pictures and re-keyed the locks and will also send a SD disposition letter via certified mail within the specified time frame. Appreciate the input very much.

Post: Abandoned Property After Tenant Has Vacated

Shiv B.Posted
  • Homeowner
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 13

Hello all, shortly before their vacate date my tenant re-keyed locks and refused to respond to messages to schedule move out and handing over of keys and was unavailable at the property on the last day of lease. They eventually vacated late at night two days later with a snarky text message indicating the location of keys left in the yard. Tons of trash left in the home and in the garage along with personal possessions - toiletries in bathroom, decrepit looking washer and dryer in basement (not hooked up and seemingly long unused ), old couch, old truck tires, vehicle battery, TV stand, mower and vac in garage. Due a separate bunch of ongoing issues, tenant has not provided any forwarding address. Could folks with knowledge of Columbus, OH laws on abandoned property advise me the best way to deal with the stuff that has been left behind? Thank you.

Post: Tenant Screening and Approval Questions

Shiv B.Posted
  • Homeowner
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 13

@Patrick Drury - thank you for input. I have requested this info and am awaiting response.

Post: Tenant Screening and Approval Questions

Shiv B.Posted
  • Homeowner
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 13

@Nathan Gesner, @Corby Goade - thank you very much for your input on this.

Post: Tenant Screening and Approval Questions

Shiv B.Posted
  • Homeowner
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 13

Thank you @Scott Johnson, @Richard F. @Bjorn Ahlblad, @Remington Lyman, @Michael Smythe for your input and guidance on this. Much appreciated.

Post: Tenant Screening and Approval Questions

Shiv B.Posted
  • Homeowner
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 13

Hello all, just looking for input on how to address the following situations with a rental application:

a. Applicant has indicated previously owned a home with spouse but is currently going through divorce and living with relative along with two minor children and is unable to provide previous landlord references.

b. Applicant's wage income is below 3x rent and does not qualify on this basis, but has indicated government assistance for two minor children. Including assistance for children income exceeds 3x rent. Can applicant be asked to provide proof of assistance and treat this as qualifying income for purpose of renting?

 I wondered whether the above should be treated as red flags for screening or not?

Thank you.


Quote from @Shiv B.:

I've never filed a second cause. I honestly didn't know it existed and really don't care. When I get to court, my #1 priority is to get the Tenant out and stop the bleeding. 

You will get a judgment for what the Tenant owes up to that point. In my experience, the court gives me a judgment for unpaid rent and utilities, court filing fees, etc. They do not award me late fees or give me anything for future charges. If the court gives the Tenant 48 hours to vacate, I don't get awarded rent or utilities for those two additional days.

One other thing to note: the court always awards me what is owed without considering application of the deposit. If the Tenant owes $900 and has a $600 deposit, the court gives me the judgment for $900 so I have the deposit plus the judgment to cover costs. 

It doesn't really matter. If the Tenant causes a bunch of damage on the way out and my costs go up, I can always go back to court for an additional judgment, but that's never happened.

 Thanks very much for the excellent advice!! Good to know a separate judgement for damage can be pursued if required. 

Quote from @Richard F.:
I am not clear what you mean by "second cause", probably a difference in the legal process in your state. Nonetheless, we have typically had to file two separate cases, one for possession, the other for a money judgment. They were usually handled at the same time, just two different results. The first one would cause the Sheriff to physically set the Tenants and their property out, usually within about 10 days of the hearing, but in Tenant friendly states these can get postponed by the Tenants if they are creative. I had one fake a heart attack, EMS was called out and took the Tenant to hospital. Setout was postponed another 10 days, Tenant was back on property in about 4 hours. The money judgment becomes a separate "public record" that also hits their credit. Depending on the Tenant you MIGHT see a random check in the mail a few years down the road. Basically, if they are on the downhill side of life with lots of problems, no job, bad record with the law, etc. they are not likely to land a decent job and work their way out of the abyss. BUT, if they are just young and dumb, there is hope...hope that one day they will want to buy a home, or get a nice car, but that darned credit report is causing them problems. So, they make payment. You do have to renew those every 7, or maybe it is 10, years, and they will remain on the credit report until cleared. Just be sure you have an attorney or collection company that is monitoring it, and that they have your current contact info.

Thank you for your detailed response @Richard F. Greatly appreciated. Yes you are correct that second cause is a money judgement. In my situation this is the last month of lease ending July 31. It is most unlikely that an eviction court date will come up until early August. If the tenant has already vacated by then, the eviction process will not move forward. Assuming they leave me with some costs large enough to justify a money judgement, can this process be pursued independent of the eviction process? Since my property is not high rental value, I need to consider whether the costs and hassles of the court process are justified vs just taking a hit on possible clean out/repair costs and moving on. Thank you.