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All Forum Posts by: Sherfeng Vue

Sherfeng Vue has started 3 posts and replied 13 times.

Thanks, David. I appreciate the information. 

Originally posted by @David H.:

@Sherfeng Vue

You’d may have to speak with your lender and the individual lending institution you decide to work with as their policies may be different than those I experienced.

I can say from my personal experience that you can have as many owner occupied loans running as long as you occupy the buildings for at least one year and you do it one year one building at a time. When you move out after the first year you are free to get a new owner occupied mortgage and retain the previous one. No need to refinance. It’s a method commonly referenced on Bigger Pockets as a component of house hacking.

Some lenders may require an explanation as to why you are moving, though this explanation can be quite simple. In my case, I was “too close to the highway” and the property I was moving into was further away from the highway.

Originally posted by@David H.:

@Sherfeng Vue

Hi Sherfeng,

Sorry I wasn’t more clear. I just purchased a duplex that I will be owner-occupying with 10% down. I will live in it for a year and move on to the next one. 

Thanks, 

In my market you can get a conventional loan for owner-occupied properties with as little as 3% down (with a 700 FICO) and no PMI. Typically they make up for the no PMI with higher interest rates, for example you can expect 4.5%. One bank for example offering this product is Biddeford Savings Bank

Hope that helps!

Thanks for the information. Can you have multiple owner-occupied conventional loans active? Or do you refinance out when moving on to the next one? If I currently have a FHA loan active on my duplex, would I still be able to qualify for an owner-occupied conventional loan?

Originally posted by @Jaysen Medhurst:

Nope, @Sherfeng Vue, you're not going to find that. Is it possible to get the seller to carry part of the DP or to bring in a capital partner.

Alternatively, you could owner-occupy the new duplex. Either refi your current property and do another FHA, or, preferably, use a low-down payment product from a local bank/CU. Will your current property cash flow?

I guess I haven't looked into if the seller can carry a part of the DP. However, in regards to refinancing, I am currently looking into it and was informed that an owner occupancy loan has better interest rate vs a non owner occupancy loan. So if I refi into a conventional owner occupancy loan, I would have to live in my unit for a least 1 year before being able to use another FHA loan. I currently pay $150 out of pocket to cover the difference for my mortgage. It would cash flow if I rent out both units.

Was wondering if anyone on here knows of a Lender(s) that would do 10% down on an investment property. I have used an FHA loan to buy my first duplex and looking to buy another Duplex. Spoke to several banks locally and all require at least a 20% down. Thanks.

Originally posted by @David H.:

@Murphy Frankhouser

Have you tried any credit unions? In my market their are quite a few low money down conventional morgage products available from small savings banks and credit unions.

I just closed on a duplex yesterday at 10% down, 3.625% no PMI. I know of a savings bank that has as low as 3% down at 4.5% with no PMI. There are quite a few 5% down products as well, some with PMI and some without. Granted, this may be because I live in a market that is entirely over banked.

Hello, Where are you finding 10% down for an investment property? I am looking to buy another duplex and have already used an FHA to purchase my first property. Thanks.

Originally posted by @Murphy Frankhouser:

I'm buying a duplex in Louisville KY as an owner occupant. I understood that 4 units or less Owner Occupied could get lower down payments on the property. I am not finding this to be the case. I make too much to qualify for housing programs in my area and duplex won't go FHA. I have tried several mortgage brokers and called several banks in my area.

My options are a 3/1 ARM @ 3.75% with 10% down payment or 15% down option.

Does anyone know how to get into the 3-5% down payment area?

Do you mind sharing where you were offered 10% down? Thanks. 

Theo Hicks: Thanks for the scenarios.

Michael Dang: I could turn the basement into a 3rd bedroom but I just don't want to put anymore money into it if I don't necessary have to, as I would have a positive cash flow if I would to rent out both units and buy another property. Also, I was wondering if there are other LOW MONEY DOWN mortgage loans available other than an FHA loan since I already have an active FHA loan.

Thanks for the information. Other than an FHA mortgage loan, are there other low money down mortgage loans available?

Originally posted by @Paul Juell:
@JD Gunter Also, you don’t necessarily have to sell to get your equity out. If the numbers work it may be better to REFINANCE. As long as it cash flows after the refinance (and it should since you are moving out-there will be one more unit to rent). The nice thing is that you get your equity out but are not paying taxes on the gain. Adding debt is not a taxable event. Just be very careful that you keep cash flow and don’t get too over leveraged.

It sounds like REFINANCING my duplex into a conventional mortgage would allow me to possible use another FHA loan as low money down. Other than an FHA loan for low money down payments, are there any other LOW MONEY DOWN mortgage loans available?

Thanks for the information. I did buy a duplex about a year and half ago with an FHA loan.I am aware that you can only have 1 active FHA loan at a time. So, how would you go about buying another property to house hack with low money down after already using an FHA loan?