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All Forum Posts by: Shay Sherbotseli

Shay Sherbotseli has started 2 posts and replied 19 times.

Quote from @Chris Pelc:
Quote from @Shay Sherbotseli:

Hello,

I am currently exploring the possibility of investing in a 3-bedroom townhouse or similar property in Pennsylvania, specifically in Montgomery County, Perkiomen, Collegeville, Norristown, Pottstown, or even Haverford.

My intention is to purchase the property for rental purposes. I am curious to know if the proximity to Pennsylvania itself is a crucial factor in renting out the property, or if it would be equally viable to invest in an area further away from the city (with a 1-hour commute time, as opposed to a 30-minute train ride from Haverford).

I would greatly appreciate if anyone could provide information on the actual rental prices for an average 3-bedroom house in these areas. I am seeking reliable data and cannot solely rely on platforms like Zillow for this information.

Thank you for any assistance you can provide.


It's really best off to have an agent with access to the MLS to pull accurate data related to comps when underwriting a deal.

When it comes to areas, think about what surrounds the area in addition to the class of neighborhood. A class neighborhoods will be tough to cash flow, because of the expensive entry point in price. But these properties will likely appreciate nicely. Whereas, C class neighborhoods will likely cash flow nicely because of the cost entry point is a lot lower. But then you might deal with higher tenant turnover, less appreciation, and headaches all around. 

You might be best fit finding those in between deals. 

I'd be happy to talk a bit further if you'd like. 


 Hi Chris,

I will be happy to talk and gain more information and wisdom from you. email is best.

Quote from @James Mc Ree:

My guess is you are a victim of analysis paralysis. Keep in mind you are looking for 1 investment property. Any of those places will yield that. It would be different if you were looking to buy 50 and the demographics really mattered.

In terms of the purchase, it's all about location, location, location first. Drive these places and get to know them. You will get comments here that steer you towards A class properties - or C class. What are you looking for? Getting to know the towns, neighborhoods, streets and actual properties is essential and far more important than just one town name versus another.

At this point, you don't know anything about your future tenant, so I wouldn't assume they are trying to get to the city. Closeness to transportation is always better, but that is a tradeoff too. It could mean closer to traffic, noise and crime which is always worse. You may get retirees, tenants who work locally to those towns, airline pilots who are rarely home, etc. Don't focus on that, but rather what would be attractive to generic tenants for those properties.

I have 12 3BR SFRs and 1 2BR SFR in Delaware County, suburbs of Philadelphia. All have worked out well. Some are retirees, some work in Philly and NJ, some work locally and some just don't work. My 3BR rents range from $1,425 to $2,000 which shows why it is almost impossible to give you meaningful rent data without you being more specific.

At this point, I wouldn't discount the online systems such as Zillow so much. Don't focus on the ZEstimate, for example. Focus instead on actual asking prices for sales and rentals. That will give you a good idea of where the market is for the areas you are interested in.


 Thanks James for the info, I would love to talk more and gain some insight if possible.

Quote from @Alan Asriants:

Hey Shay! I am an investor and agent in the Phila area. The main line is an excellent market for rentals but it can be very pricey as many of the spots are Class A RE. 

Generally the suburbs are outperforming the city in terms of rentals. Personally there are some really strong suburb areas that I would much rather invest into than Phila - lots of it is due to better landlord policy, higher demand for rentals, less competition for rentals, less headache than dealing with Phila, higher quality tenants and less risky. Overall better experience for a landlord. That being said there are also areas in Suburbs I would avoid like Norristown and Pottstown due to their nature (class C or lower). I am more than happy to connect and chat more about the market! 

Reach out anytime


 Hey Alan, I would be happy to talk and consult and listen to your experiance.

What is your email ?

Shay.

Quote from @Scott Seydor:

You're all over the place, and as suggested above, need a plan.  Perkiomenville, Collegeville, Norristown and Pottstown are all in Montgomery County... and are vastly different places with completely different markets.  Who's your market?  I've lived in Montgomery County for 25+ years and do everything I can to not go into Philadelphia.  Taking it one step further, the vast majority of my tenants don't work, so the commute time discussion is completely moot as far as my plan is concerned.


 what do you mean you tenants don't work ? how do they pay rent ?!

Hello,

I am currently exploring the possibility of investing in a 3-bedroom townhouse or similar property in Pennsylvania, specifically in Montgomery County, Perkiomen, Collegeville, Norristown, Pottstown, or even Haverford.

My intention is to purchase the property for rental purposes. I am curious to know if the proximity to Pennsylvania itself is a crucial factor in renting out the property, or if it would be equally viable to invest in an area further away from the city (with a 1-hour commute time, as opposed to a 30-minute train ride from Haverford).

I would greatly appreciate if anyone could provide information on the actual rental prices for an average 3-bedroom house in these areas. I am seeking reliable data and cannot solely rely on platforms like Zillow for this information.

Thank you for any assistance you can provide.

Thank you for the information. I will consult with a CPA and do my homework. The average yield in Israel from rental is around 3%, not taking into account mortgage or property price changes. Property prices in Israel have risen significantly since 2006, by 200-500% in some locations. However, there is no guarantee that this trend will continue due to the current geopolitical and economic climate. That's why I have decided to diversify my investments.


I am considering purchasing a house in a highly desirable community with good schools for $300-330k. This property is expected to yield $2300 per month in rent, with property taxes around $500, leaving $1800 in rent.

The tax on income is approximately 12%, and when federal and state taxes are considered, let's say 6%, this will leave around $1500 after tax deductions, not accounting for expenses or potential depreciation refunds from tax planning.

This would result in a 5.4% return from rent. In Israel, I would also need to pay 15% on my income (a flat rate), which would still be around 5%.

Tax report in israel cost around 300$, I assume it is about 500-600$ in the USA or less and its a one time fee / year.

Quote from @Melanie P.:

@Shay Sherbotseli The tax a withholding on the gross sale price of the home. You cannot defer it. You'll also pay income taxes along the way on the operation of the property. You'll need to start with 15-20 units to make the tax compliance and sales penalties worthwhile. 


 Hey your messege is a bit confusing -  see

You can avoid capital gains tax when you sell your primary residence by buying another house and using the 121 home sale exclusion. In addition, the 1031 like-kind exchange allows investors to defer taxes when they reinvest the proceeds from the sale of an investment property into another investment property.

Plus the withholding 15% tax is refundable once a tax report is produced and the capital gains are submitted to the IRS.

Income taxes I don't mind paying they are 10-12% after expenses.

Can you share more information on the withholding tax terms ?

Quote from @Melanie P.:

@Shay Sherbotseli Are you a citizen and resident of the Netherlands? Why aren't you concentrating your investments there?

You will be well served to learn about the withholdings that will take place if you ever wish to sell or exchange the real estate you buy here. Foreign nationals lose a good chuck of their payout. 

Israel
its my understanding the tax is 25% of the profit on the house value, It is also my understanding I can avoid it if I am buying a replacemnet house in the US?

Eitherway 25% tax on profit is what we have here as well, I am looking to diversify my financials.



Quote from @Jordan Moorhead:
Quote from @Shay Sherbotseli:

Thanks I was not going after MHP. so I don't know if this rent control has any relevancy.

anyway I am all for fair rent with good tenants usually it results in far less maintenance and expenses. But that's just me. 


 Rent control is relevant if you have residential tenants. It doesn't apply to commercial business tenants that I've seen.

How come is it relevant if it is only for MHP ? You think it will take down rent fron near properties to MHP or create preference to MHP ?