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All Forum Posts by: Sharma Parth

Sharma Parth has started 13 posts and replied 41 times.

Quote from @Jeff Henderson:

As a GC myself I would be extremely leery of working with someone who suggested those approaches to you. You need a mechanical permit for the HVAC, and you need a residential construction permit or EZ permit open in order to pull the mechanical permit. For his second approach I can confidently tell you it will cost you much more money, and cause several delays. I would insist on him puling the permits. I would also have every possible scenario moving forward specified in the contract. If he isn't open to that, you need to find another contractor.


Thanks Jeff so here is what I understood - 

EZ or construction permit - Step 1

Mechanical permit - Step 2 for the HVAC

Plumbing permit - Step 3 for the new bathroom to add

How long does it take for the town to send someone for the inspection for these 3 permits? E.g. - if it's Day 1 today then will they come on Day 30?

Quote from @Stuart Udis:

@Sharma Parth It doesn’t sound like the scope of work you described would require a CO. In Philadelphia a CO is issued for new construction, additions, alterations that impact exits or fire ratings and renovations that change the use. I’m still a proponent for obtaining necessary permits as it costs more if caught, are issued a stop work order and have to then apply.  Have you verified with your builders risk carrier that you will have coverage if there’s a claim and the renovation is completed without proper permits? Also that your contractors carrier will pick up coverage if they are working without permits? Your seller disclosure also looks better when you can check the boxes stating the work was completed with permits when it’s time for resale.  

Ultimately it’s personal preference but if you choose to proceed without permits you should at least use trades who have the ability to obtain permits in Philadelphia. As frustrating as getting hit with a stop work order can be it’s worse if the work that is partially completed was done by non licensed contractors. Now you have to find contractors to apply for permits and assume the work that was completed. They will charge a premium and rarely warrant any of the work. At least if the workers who complete the work are licensed you can avoid this headache if caught because they can obtain the permits and complete the work they started.


 Thank you

Hi guys!

We are about to close on a property soon in Philly and are planning to do the following work -

-Add HVAC, Add a full bathroom and add a half bathroom, Fix kitchen (keep same layout)

My contractor is saying that (Approach - 1 ) - we don't need to pull permits. We can finish the work in 8 weeks. After that, I can request a CO from the town and then make it easy for me to rent or sell it. (Approach - 2) - He says that if he is asked to pull permits, he is not responsible for any additional work that the inspector may throw (basically more money out of my pocket on the rehab costs). In his experience, for this job he says we don't need a permit and it will only cause more delays.

We are torn between both approaches here.

Cam someone suggest what approach is better? If we don't get a permit then does the inspector for the CO ask for it when he/she comes for inspection? or they just care about the house being "liveable"?

Thank you in advance!

Hi guys - we are about to close on a property soon in Philly and are planning to do the following work -

-Add HVAC, Add a full bathroom and add a half bathroom, Fix kitchen (keep same layout)

My contractor is saying that (Approach - 1 ) - we don't need to pull permits. We can finish the work in 8 weeks. After that, I can request a CO from the town and then make it easy for me to rent or sell it. (Approach - 2) - He says that if he is asked to pull permits, he is not responsible for any additional work that the inspector may throw (basically more money out of my pocket on the rehab costs). In his experience, for this job he says we don't need a permit and it will only cause more delays.

We are torn between both approaches here.

Cam someone suggest what approach is better? If we don't get a permit then does the inspector for the CO ask for it when he/she comes for inspection? or they just care about the house being "liveable"?


Thank you in advance!

Hi guys - we are about to close on a property soon in Philly and are planning to do the following work - 

-Add HVAC, Add a full bathroom and add a half bathroom, Fix kitchen (keep same layout)

My contractor is saying that (Approach - 1 ) - we don't need to pull permits. We can finish the work in 8 weeks. After that, I can request a CO from the town and then make it easy for me to rent or sell it. (Approach - 2) - He says that if he is asked to pull permits, he is not responsible for any additional work that the inspector may throw (basically more money out of my pocket on the rehab costs). In his experience, for this job he says we don't need a permit and it will only cause more delays. 

We are torn between both approaches here.

Cam someone suggest what approach is better? If we don't get a permit then does the inspector for the CO ask for it when he/she comes for inspection? or they just care about the house being "liveable"? 


Thank you in advance!

Quote from @Dave Foster:

@Sharma Parth, You are correct.  You cannot do a 1031 exchange on a fix n flip.  Your intent must be to hold for productive investment use.  And although it's not a hard and fast rule, the general guideline is to hold the property for a year.

But the fix n flip also doesn't work with a BRRRR. Those are two different concepts. A BRRRR works beautifully with 1031 exchanges.

In your situation don't sell.  do the refinance.  Pull out the $140K and purchase your next property while renting the first property.  The cash flow from the rental will help your lendability.  And you won't immediately give up 40% of your profit in taxes.

Simply keep repeating this process with one addition - periodically (when you have a good reason) you will sell one of your rentals and using a 1031 exchange, purchase 1 or two new properties to again BRRRR. This way your portfolio stays fresh, non-taxed, and productive.

I have clients who have done upwards of 30 1031 exchanges in a given year - all on properties they had owned for at least a year. And all purchased through a BRRRR process.


Hi Dave - can you tell me how you would rank the following markets for a potential BRRRR deal (buy and hold) -

1. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

2. Flint, Michigan. or Detroit, Michigan.

3. Norfolk/Hampton/Portsmouth, Virginia.

Thank you

Quote from @Connor Hibbs:

Hi Sharma, these numbers look good. I'd recommend factoring in a bit more time for how long the rehab will take to be on the safe side, but I do like the MISC Expenses buffer that you put in there. 


Connor - can you tell me how you would rank the following markets for a potential BRRRR deal (buy and hold) -

1. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

2. Flint, Michigan. or Detroit, Michigan.

3. Norfolk/Hampton/Portsmouth, Virginia.

Thank you

Quote from @Jason Wray:
Quote from @Sharma Parth:
Quote from @Jason Wray:

Sharma,

Just a few things on the surface the deal looks great in terms of gained equity for the price plus injected costs to renovate/repair. There is No rents to see if it will support itself after the refinance, so its tough to speculate on ROI/cash flow on a long term investment. Just from a fix & flip it looks great but have you considered a 1031 exchange to avoid the capital gains?

Who is doing the ARV evaluation because I have seen a lot of examples over the last 3 years when a new investor looks to buy a property and ends up having the wrong ARV or sale value. If you refinance keep in mind you can get up to 80% LTV even as an investment rental.

I would look into a 1031 exchange to avoid that huge Tax hit... 


 Hi Jason - any feedback?

Yes, There are some shorter time frames on 1031 exchange you have to use a seasoned 1031 company.  In most cases there is very little fix and flip profits as a long term benefit.  This is just my opinion because in over 18+ years in banking I have had thousands of customers who started off doing fix and flips change gears and then buy and hold.  If you hold it for 8-10 months you can start the application process and close on or after the 12th month.

It makes very little sense to me to fix and flip a property if it cash flows and you have a good enough ARV to pull cash out and repeat the process.  Again my advice comes from working with investors like "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" whose whole philosophy is if it cash flow dont sell it use the equity to buy another property.  Avoid the capital gains and use your Shedule E, LLC or business returns to offset passive income with great tax deductions and write offs.

A fix and Flip can offer a good way to get some fast cash and deal with taxes in aother manner but again its still not the long game I think works best.  Especially now that home values are about to increase again, mostly in part to lower rates as of last week and still lower to come after the election and into 2025.

As these mortgage rates continue to drop further it will cause more buyers to come off of the side line putting in offers.  That will cause a sellers market due to multiple bids over bids and properties now appraising back on positives.  That also means longer holds will appreciate faster allowing you to buy a TLC property, renovate and benefit on the ARV which will gain quicker in a market similar to 2021-2022.

Reason why I mention this is if your buying fix and flips your prices will start to go up making it harder to use all cash to buy them.

 Thank you so much Jason for your feedback.

You seem to be someone who has dealt with multiple investor over the years and this advice is super helpful. I really appreciate this feedback.


I am hoping to be in a buy and hold strategy vs buy and flip (as long as the numbers make sense). I posted this earlier but I also want to ID a good team in the BRRRR process -

1. A good contractor

2. Good lender

3. Title Company

4. A good local real estate agent.

Of course having a back-up to 1-4 above will help too.

Thanks again

Quote from @Dave Foster:

@Sharma Parth, You are correct.  You cannot do a 1031 exchange on a fix n flip.  Your intent must be to hold for productive investment use.  And although it's not a hard and fast rule, the general guideline is to hold the property for a year.

But the fix n flip also doesn't work with a BRRRR. Those are two different concepts. A BRRRR works beautifully with 1031 exchanges.

In your situation don't sell.  do the refinance.  Pull out the $140K and purchase your next property while renting the first property.  The cash flow from the rental will help your lendability.  And you won't immediately give up 40% of your profit in taxes.

Simply keep repeating this process with one addition - periodically (when you have a good reason) you will sell one of your rentals and using a 1031 exchange, purchase 1 or two new properties to again BRRRR. This way your portfolio stays fresh, non-taxed, and productive.

I have clients who have done upwards of 30 1031 exchanges in a given year - all on properties they had owned for at least a year. And all purchased through a BRRRR process.


Thank you Dave for the amazing advice. I agree with your approach totally and most likely I may end up following that. I am just a little nervous with a buy and hold with concerns if I will get a tenant but then that's on me to do my homework up front. I have identified the following people I need to have in place before I pull the trigger on a BRRRR opportunity

1. A good contractor

2. Good lender

3. Title Company

4. A good local real estate agent.

Of course having a back-up to 1-4 above will help too.


Thanks again