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All Forum Posts by: Shane Pico

Shane Pico has started 3 posts and replied 15 times.

Quote from @Steven Foster Wilson:
Quote from @Shane Pico:

Investment Info:

Single-family residence other investment.

Purchase price: $370,000
Cash invested: $11,000
Sale price: $650,000

I house hacked this home, did all the renovations myself, then did a cash out refi to move into more deals.


 That is great, congratulation! What is next? If you have not considered it you should consider investing OOS here in Columbus or Cincinnati. The price to rent ratio makes for great investments. Not to mention our appreciation has been 8% higher then the US national average, because of the high demand for affordable housing. Keep up that good work and it will continue to just be a snowball effect.


I am a big fan of Cinci, Colombus, and Cleveland as well! Some of my favorite markets for out of state investing. What's next is a good question... I tried to acquire another property last month to be an STR but the sale fell through and I'm still trying to get my EMD back lol, oh well! I am always on the prowl for the next deal, but with the crazy market we have and my limited experience I'm really just educating myself and getting prepared. Creative funding and multifamily investments are what I'm primarily studying, reading The Best Ever Apartment Syndication Book. But like I said, always on the prowl !!!

Quote from @Galen Ikonomov:

I am interested in what time frame that equity was built it, but otherwise Congratulations on the accomplishment.


 I bought the house in June of 2020, did a cash out refi in April 2022. So almost 2 years exactly, obviously had a TON of help with the market timing. Sometimes a little luck will do you wonders.


 im not sure honestly. I definitely had no contact or discussion with seller. I called the escrow company and asked for my money back and they said they still need some documents sent over?

Quote from @Wayne Brooks:

@Shane Pico @Bruce Woodruff I’m not seeing where your agent has dropped the ball here. Your agent can control the actions of a seller…the seller’s agent should be talking them back off the ledge though.


 I haven't really stated anything to make it look that way, he's been alright to be honest. Now that I am where I am he's no help though. but I didn't come here to bash my agent, he's learning as he goes same way I am. i've clearly made some mistakes myself, just trying to figure out where to go from here.

Quote from @Bill B.:

They also can’t sell without returning your money so I don’t know what good the additional Lis pendens does. 

Your realtor should, but you probably can, contact the title company and say the sale fell apart, please start the action to return my EMD.

Ps. I don’t know why the real estate broker would tell you to sue your agent (their employee) but certainly I don’t see any mistakes the agent made, especially if it was your idea to waive appraisal. Even if it was their idea it’s not their fault unless they didn’t explain what it meant. 


 I mispoke, I called a broker I trust, family friend, used them before, but not involved in this deal.

Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

I'd be contacting a Real Estate Attorney and buying an hour of his time real quick if I were you.....

Your agent sounds like a bad (or maybe just weak) one. Once you get out of this, I'd get a new agent first thing.


 Thanks for the input! i agree, probably smart to speak to attorney.

and thats very valid, This is the first time ive used him (new region of investing) he seamed legit until things got messy. Now he just looks lost. 

Quote from @Sergey A. Petrov:

yep, start with your agent, broker, and their designated broker. depending on what the actual docs say, they may be able to untangle it quickly (do escalate to managing / designated broker within the firm that represented you). either you are missing something and may be in default or your agent / whoever you are talking to is missing something (or it is over their head) and you owed your earnest money. the devil is always in the details and you need someone who can read the actual docs / contracts and advise you properly. we are all just sitting here guessing based on what you wrote. 


 Much appreciated. I wasnt expecting somebody to give me the answer straight up, just needed some direction on what to do now. im reading through all the documents now. 

Quote from @Shane Pico:
Quote from @JD Martin:

Where is your agent in all of this?

Your RE contract would/should have given you several possible outs. Inspection contingency, where you can walk for any reason or no reason whatsoever is one. Financing contingency is another. Some various lesser ones like inability to deliver clean title, damage after the contract, etc. If you have any of them in place and duly exercised one before the deadline of the contingency, they have no case and your money will have to be returned. If you missed deadlines, that's another story altogether. 

Who is holding your earnest money? 


 My agent at this point is a middle man for information. he's still involved, but no more qualified to handle this than I am.

I am checking the loan contingency deadline right now.

desert escrow is holding my money (small local escrow company)


 And actually my broker said I should suing my agent for not protecting me. But I just want to get my money and move on

Quote from @JD Martin:

Where is your agent in all of this?

Your RE contract would/should have given you several possible outs. Inspection contingency, where you can walk for any reason or no reason whatsoever is one. Financing contingency is another. Some various lesser ones like inability to deliver clean title, damage after the contract, etc. If you have any of them in place and duly exercised one before the deadline of the contingency, they have no case and your money will have to be returned. If you missed deadlines, that's another story altogether. 

Who is holding your earnest money? 


 My agent at this point is a middle man for information. he's still involved, but no more qualified to handle this than I am.

I am checking the loan contingency deadline right now.

desert escrow is holding my money (small local escrow company)

Quote from @Sergey A. Petrov:
Quote from @Russell Brazil:

Tell them if they dont release the EMD you will file a lis pendens so they won't be able to sell the house with the cloud on the title. It is an empty threat....but an empty threat that has proven to be very successful.

An empty threat it is. My response would’ve been - go for it. I’ll buy a bond to wrap around your lis pendens so I can still sell and will then come after you for filing frivolous actions 😁

 I feel like they just sent me an empty threat as well which is ironic.lol