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All Forum Posts by: Seth Nowak

Seth Nowak has started 5 posts and replied 26 times.

Post: Solar in Rentals?

Seth NowakPosted
  • Investor
  • Madison, WI
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 11

Yes, lots of power outages. About 1 per year, lasting about 90 minutes on average.  I'm 50 years old and don't remember electricity going out for more than a minute or two -- enough to make the digital clock on the microwave need to be re-set -- since I was child.  I'd be interested to hear other's personal experiences. Enough outages to make grid-tied PV a problem? 

Post: Solar in Rentals?

Seth NowakPosted
  • Investor
  • Madison, WI
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 11

I am not totally clueless.  When the grid goes down, everyone loses power! This has NOTHING to do with grid-tied PV. The implication was, "you have to have batteries as a back up." You don't.  You can have coal power or solar.  If you want batteries, great. They're getting less expensive all the time. 

Post: Solar in Rentals?

Seth NowakPosted
  • Investor
  • Madison, WI
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 11

Unless you are powering a hospital or a research lab, having the grid go out for 2 minutes per year or whatever is not an issue and having that as a consideration just makes you sound completely nuts.  You're about as likely to have the grid go out in the USA as to have lightning hit your house, maybe less.  Maybe there is some remote scenario when PV would need batteries rather than being on the grid, but not for the vast majority of residential uses. 

Post: Solar in Rentals?

Seth NowakPosted
  • Investor
  • Madison, WI
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 11

Yes, from a traditional accounting perspective, solar panels on an apartment house are technically a depreciating asset. AND there are some very significant factors to note: 

1. Once the PV system is installed, you effectively have eliminated any volatility for part of your electric expenses on the building. There really, truly is zero maintenance 99.99 percent of the time. 

2. Depreciation is an expense you can take to reduce your income taxes. 

3. The actual solar cells themselves don't degrade over time: solar systems, after 20 or 30 years, don't work as efficiently as they did on Day 1.  For most of us, our PV arrays will be working until we retire or die. 

4. Buying electricity from the grid gets more an more expense every year per unit of electricity, on average.  In Wisconsin, this is mostly coal and natural gas powered.  So there are very real, huge pollution and health costs that aren't even included in that price per kWh.  

5. What is the definition of an Appreciating asset? The example is land, right? Land "always" goes up in value over time, right? Except when it doesn't, of course, but the accountants don't talk about that. Polluted land, re-zoned land, land that has rising property taxes associated with it -- that must be paid in cash, land in a neighborhood that goes downhill, land that used to be quiet and peaceful on the edge of town when we bought it but now is crowded and noisy.  

Post: madison wisconsin. would love to meet up

Seth NowakPosted
  • Investor
  • Madison, WI
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 11

Sorry to have been out of the loop about today's Meetup in Fitchburg. I'm definitely interested in future Madison area BP Meetups. 

Seth