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All Forum Posts by: David Washington

David Washington has started 2 posts and replied 18 times.

Post: New Wholesaler: Dilemma and Thoughts

David WashingtonPosted
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Adam A.:

Been done already. I did that way early in the thread which is why this thread is beat to death. Nothing to see here. Let's move on.

Post: New Wholesaler: Dilemma and Thoughts

David WashingtonPosted
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 8

Oh Mylanta. Dad leaves the room for one minute and the kids go crazy. Time to calm down and get a glass of milk. A hug. Something.

It appears that everyone has an opinion on this topic with the vast majority of the posts in this thread not even touching the actual question I asked. @Jay Hinrichs I believe is the only one that actually answered the question with an honorable mention from @Jonathan Damon. @Engelo Rumora addressed my question as well. So thanks for that guys. Sincerely. 

I wasn't asking opinions about wholesaling. I've made up my mind on that. I was asking about something else entirely. I wasn't asking what the law was, how to do it, none of that. I stated that from the OP. That much I do know. Everything else is just...well...something else. It's not that it's bad in its context. However, I'm wondering how many people got on the thread to genuinely help and how many got on the thread just to be heard. 

I think this horse has been thoroughly beaten and is now officially dead. Thanks to those that helped or attempted to. Appreciate your time.

Post: New Wholesaler: Dilemma and Thoughts

David WashingtonPosted
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Engelo Rumora  quite frankly Engelo is one of the great American success stories bar none.

he comes here 7 years ago from Australia  talking all funny with these big grandiose plans.. gets lulled into war zone type stuff because it was cheap learned straight away that was a dead end. And I was telling him so on the Aussie real estate forums LOL)  Works his you know what off to create a brand and a name for himself... And now has a super successful turn key company.. a real estate company and bad pad in the Bahama's and a great lady.

all before he has turned 30.. and from a foreign country.. many of US folks could learn a lot from the Dingo.. motivation ,, integrity,, drive  and ability to get it done.

I once mentioned to him most all investors, real estate agents, borrowers etc are great when its going great.. the true character will come when you buy a bummer... and WE ALL have bummers in our career its how you handle those that tells the true character.. some go dark.. some man up.. Engelo has proven time after time he will do the later.   . @David Washington  So David do yourself a favor and book an appointment with him and check out his shop.

I will most definitely do that. Thank you kindly for the referral. 

By the way—on a totally different subject—on my recent trip to Wisconsin a week or so ago, I was listening to a slate of Bigger Pockets podcasts I had downloaded onto my phone and yours was one of them. Insightful info. If I remember correctly, you had some timber deal in Oregon and then something with lending in...was it Missouri? Forgot the state but somewhere in the southeast U.S.

All the best and thanks again.

Post: New Wholesaler: Dilemma and Thoughts

David WashingtonPosted
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Engelo Rumora:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@David Washington  read my response.. I gave you the name of a broker in TOLEDO that will let you work for 199 a month.. I am sure that is not too big of a cut.. to be licensed and legal. so you asked and I answered.

Thanks for the mention Jay,

Hey David,

Our brokerage model is perfectly suited for wholesalers and buy, fix and flippers that don't want to pay hefty listing fees.

All we charge is $199 per month and that's it.

The agents (flippers and wholesalers) get to keep 100% of their commission.

I'm happy to discuss further via message

Thanks and have a great day

Thanks Engelo. I appreciate it and it sounds like that is something that will work in my long term goals. I have a few more questions to pass by you so I'll message you with those.

Thanks again.

Post: New Wholesaler: Dilemma and Thoughts

David WashingtonPosted
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@David Washington  read my response.. I gave you the name of a broker in TOLEDO that will let you work for 199 a month.. I am sure that is not too big of a cut.. to be licensed and legal. so you asked and I answered.

I saw that. Thanks for addressing it though there was some unfounded assumptions in your response that weren't relevant which is what I addressed in my last post. 

Are you familiar if this is a standard or is it different with each broker? I'm assuming different brokers have different criteria.

Thanks again.

Post: New Wholesaler: Dilemma and Thoughts

David WashingtonPosted
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 8

I think the question I posited has been lost as people try to push forth some kind of biased opinion or agenda on the act of wholesaling and then coloring everyone that's in the business in that vein. I agree with @Jonathan Damon. I just got here and to have something like this get thrown out of wack so quickly doesn't do much for my opinion about the forums. Maybe it was better to stay a lurker. 

So let me restate: I have no problem getting a license (and I know it is not illegal without one. Not even in the stringent state of Ohio). I said that at the very beginning. I'm not trying to be rude but people aren't paying attention and actually reading the thread but want to be quick to add their opinion. 

My question was about the broker and what they expect as I don't have any experience there and was looking for feedback on how that works so I can make an informed decision. I'm not “worried” about anything when it comes to brokers. I didn't say it was too much to pay them. I'm wondering how the split works as a wholesaler with a license and not being a real estate agent in the traditional sense.

Thanks.

Post: New Wholesaler: Dilemma and Thoughts

David WashingtonPosted
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Chris Purcell:
Originally posted by @David Washington:

Originally posted by @Chris Purcell:

@David Washington

You are incorrect. But feel free to explain, I'll entertain your argument.

By all means, don't believe me. Believe the law as stated by a real estate attorney and the Department of Commerce Real Estate Division in Ohio:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fi54S8nwUA

Ok so one attorney's opinion will hold up in court?  The only way to find out is to be reported to the Commission, have to plead your case, and it's up to them whether you were brokering a deal without a license or not.  Feel free to try it and report back.

 Thank you for that. I see that you successfully did a whole lot of nothing in looking at the reference. I see absolutely nothing you've said that's constructive in any way so consider our exchange done.

Post: New Wholesaler: Dilemma and Thoughts

David WashingtonPosted
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Tim West:

@David Washington I am not familiar with Ohio when it comes to wholesaling, but I can tell you that there are plenty of us wholesalers out there doing things ethically and professionally. I am 100% honest with all of my clients, and it is so fulfilling to be able to help both the seller and the buyers who both are benefiting from what we do. I work with so many sellers that are in various "bad" situations that had no idea there were other options for them, and there are many buyers (both buy and hold and fix and flip) that are depending upon wholesalers to provide properties that have margins for profit in them.

My advice to you is to get engaged with your local RE group and there will certainly be a wide array of RE investors that can help you navigate the local legal aspects, and my experience is that there is a large portion of these folks that are happy to help anyone in need. Wholesaling certainly has its fair share of people who tarnish the reputation of the profession, but you have that in every single profession. If you do things the right way and work with integrity, then you will find this work to be so fun, fulfilling and challenging that you'll be addicted to helping people. The wholesalers that are truly successful normally are the ones that focus on helping people solve their problems versus chasing money. Good luck, and let me know if I ever can be of assistance to you.

Thanks Tim. 

One of the things that attracted me to wholesaling was the “win-win-win” that it brings to the table for everyone involved. I'm a stickler for ethics, law, and integrity. Of course, the law is different in each state. Michigan is literally a hop, skip and a jump away from where I am. I suppose I could start there with Detroit and the surrounding suburbs being 45 minutes to an hour away for most of the area.

I just attended a REIA this past Tuesday. The COO of REIA was there giving an update on the national law, what was going on in D.C. and so forth. Informative.

I would have no problem getting a license if need be. That's not the problem. The problem is getting clearance from a broker and possibly having to split a fee with them. I'm not sure if this is what would happen or how that process works so I'm putting out feelers and continuing to research the issue in depth. 

Thanks for your offer of support. I'll certainly keep you in mind.

Post: New Wholesaler: Dilemma and Thoughts

David WashingtonPosted
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 8

Originally posted by @Chris Purcell:

@David Washington

You are incorrect. But feel free to explain, I'll entertain your argument.

By all means, don't believe me. Believe the law as stated by a real estate attorney and the Department of Commerce Real Estate Division in Ohio:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fi54S8nwUA

Post: New Wholesaler: Dilemma and Thoughts

David WashingtonPosted
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Chris Purcell:

@David Washington

Wholesaling without a license is illegal. Getting caught twice is actually a felony.  

Wholesaling with a license, any commissions need to be ran through your broker. So your broker needs to be in the loop on anything you're doing to make sure it's ethical/legal

 Actually, wholesaling without a license is legal. It is how you wholesale that is the issue which makes it legal or illegal.