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All Forum Posts by: Sean Yang

Sean Yang has started 11 posts and replied 67 times.

Post: Agent asking for $5000 upfront compensation. That normal??

Sean YangPosted
  • Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 18

@Stephen Fryer Thank you for your advice!  Relationship is the key I totally agree.  The only concern of calling the listing agent directly is that I will be dealing with a dual agent situation and sometimes that could cause some trouble in my opinion, but the flip side is I will get better price because the agent doesn't have to split commission with anybody. Never rely on anybody to run the numbers- 100% agreed. I learned this the hard way. 

Post: Agent asking for $5000 upfront compensation. That normal??

Sean YangPosted
  • Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 18

@Charlie MacPherson Thank you for sharing. My market is actually in a small town in AZ where historical sales/asking price is around 90% for residential homes. But that number doesn't mean too much in this case because I am buying multifamily homes which are more based on CAP rate or rent multiplier unlike residential SFH's. The asking price could be irrelevant because there are not many comps and usually is just a dream figure that the seller and his agent came up with. I've seen a property listed at $100k and then reduced $10k each week after and eventually sold in the $50k range... that's almost 50% of it's original listing. I am originally from boston too and I know it's always a hot market there. however not every place is the same.

Post: Agent asking for $5000 upfront compensation. That normal??

Sean YangPosted
  • Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 18

@Russell Brazil Thank you for your input! 

Post: Agent asking for $5000 upfront compensation. That normal??

Sean YangPosted
  • Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 18

@Jeff Copeland I first thought it's illegal as it's against the definition of fiduciary duty. But maybe it's okay in some states I just don't know. Still sounds fishy though. Thank you for your input!

Post: Agent asking for $5000 upfront compensation. That normal??

Sean YangPosted
  • Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 18

@Robert Freeborn yeah I was shocked to see it as well..

Post: Agent asking for $5000 upfront compensation. That normal??

Sean YangPosted
  • Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 18

Hi I really need some feedback on this. I was looking to buy some out-of-state rental properties and got introduced to this agent in August when I did a field trip. Since then he has been sending me some off market properties and market analysis, which was very helpful. I was on vacation for the entire month of Sep so we lost contact for a while, but in early October I came back to the state and was ready to do some business again with him. 

Long story short, we've made so far 5 offers together (2 are for properties he sent me and the other 3 are ones I found on MLS myself). They were all multifamily homes and my initial offers were at about 80%-90% of the asking price but i told him i am open for negotiation. He wasn't quite happy about that and told me there is no chance if I keep low balling (i later noticed 3 out of the 5 properties I offered are still sitting on the market unsold as of today, meaning my offers weren't that low actually as the units were either overpriced or the sellers were just being greedy). The agent told me this is not how they normally do business here and suggested me go under contract first and get the inspection started. I can negotiate again in the inspection phase or just back out if I don't like the results. I started to agree with him as most multifamily here don't even let people view inside unless it's under contract and that seems a good strategy to at least have the ball rolling. So one day he sent me an off-market deal (it's in another city 1 hr from his town) and told me it's in a high demand area and this is a great opportunity; however he said the seller is quite firm on the price (he is a dual agent in this deal btw). I trusted his words, offered full asking price and scheduled inspection the following week. This place is about 5 hr drive from my home but I still decided to take a trip as this is going to be my first large investment out-of-state and don't want to take it lightly. When I got there I was quite shocked by its below-average condition and being in the worst part of town - totally unlike what the seller had disclosed before. My wife wanted to cancel the deal right away but I said let's just wait til the inspection done before making the final decision. A few days later the inspection report came out as expected. All roofs need to be redone; hvac needs complete overhaul; one unit has serious termite issue; another unit might have problem in sewer line- just to name a few major ones. I think this is enough reasons to back out of this deal so I told the agent we'd like to cancel. Now all of a sudden he was like changed to another person and started saying negative things about me- he texted me something like new investors like me will never be able to buy anything and he felt disrespected as my realtor bec I didn't discuss the report with him. I apologized and offered him a thorough explanation of why I think it won't work but he still wants me to order a separate termite and sewer inspection to better evaluate even though there are already plenty of issues to worry about... Anyways, I cancelled the deal but told him we have other things in the pipeline because I am constantly searching for new deals and let's just move on.

Today he asked me to sign an exclusive buyer-broker agreement with $5000 non-refundable compensation exp. Jan 2018.  (future commission can be credited against it). I dont mind signing the exclusive buyer-broker but the $5k thing bothers me. The market we are looking at has an average home price of $50- $100k per unit so it means I will need to buy at least 3-5 units within the next 2 months in order to get the credit back otherwise it's for him to keep. I never heard of such thing but I'd like to ask for feedback here in the forum. Does this sound normal? I know he's frustrated by the fact that the deal didn't go through, but I am also frustrated being mis-informed at the first place and wasted time/money on the inspection etc. I treated that as a learning process and didn't want to blame anybody, but he's apparently not happy about it. Today we had a phone conversation and he said he has kids to feed and is not working for free. We are currently in negotiation for another deal but sounds like he's not working on it unless I sign the agreement... What should I do?  I don't feel this kind of relationship will benefit anybody down the road. Should I switch agent at this point? 

Post: How's Casa Grande???????????????

Sean YangPosted
  • Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 18

@Marty St. denis Thank you for sharing your experience Marty. Have you seen your rent also being raised in the last 12 months? Why did you choose CG/Arizona City as your market would you mind me asking? Btw, I reached out to Roy Garrison who you recommended in my other post and I am going to meet him this weekend :) 

Post: How's Casa Grande???????????????

Sean YangPosted
  • Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 18

Hi All, I was initially looking to invest in Phoenix and Tucson, but Casa Grande recently caught my eyes as an emerging market as I saw home prices have increased quite dramatically in the last 12 months. Anybody here has experience investing in CG and its neighboring Arizona City? I am primarily looking for multi-family units but I can only find them on the west side of the downtown, which my agent told me is the old town with lower-middle class residents. I also found some old posts here on BP talking about how terrible his tenants were and some streets were just full of drug activities. Is there particular part of town that I should avoid? I noticed the north east side is newer developed but they are most SFH's and don't seem to cash flow well. Any advice is very welcome :)

Post: Looking for Agents and Property Managers in Casa Grande

Sean YangPosted
  • Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 18

Hi All,  my partners and I are currently looking to invest in Casa Grande/Arizona City area, and we are looking for recommendations of local real estate agents as well as property managers. Please feel free to send them my way if you know any. Thank you!

Post: How does auction.com work? Can you get good deals?

Sean YangPosted
  • Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 18

I've recently came across auction.com and found this post. Wonder if anybody can share some successful stories about the site. Thank you.