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All Forum Posts by: Sean Graham

Sean Graham has started 9 posts and replied 332 times.

Post: Mobile Home Park Depreciation

Sean Graham
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  • Investor , CPA
  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 333
  • Votes 158
Quote from @Cameron Kolling:

I am in the process of buying a small MHP consisting of nine lots with eight of those lots having trailers on them that will be purchased with the park. I am not finding a clear answer on how those homes will be depreciated. Will they be depreciated over 27.5 years or as personal property on a shorter schedule? 

The mobile homes can typically all go towards 5 year property, which is fantastic. Lots of bonus depreciation opportunity. You'll have next to nothing go towards 27.5 year life. Have you received an estimate?

Post: Pennsylvania RE tax accountant/cpa

Sean Graham
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  • Investor , CPA
  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 333
  • Votes 158
Quote from @Pamela Pfeiffer:

Looking to hire new accountant knowledgeable about STR business. Need tax return filed by October 15,2024.

Is this a new purchase?

Post: Tax professional recommendation in Houston area

Sean Graham
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  • Investor , CPA
  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 333
  • Votes 158
Quote from @Sartaj G.:

Hi All,


I have recently started growing my SFR portfolio in Houston area and now looking for a tax professional to help me with setting up an appropriate system going forward, e.g., correctly setting up LLC or partnership with my wife, other steps to help with tax optimization. Does anyone a good recommendation for a tax professional, preferably in Houston area? Any other recommendations/pointers for me? Thanks a lot in advance.

Congrats! Its always good to start working with a CPA earlier on 

Post: EXPLAINED: "Real" cost segregation vs. DIY cost segregation

Sean Graham
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  • Investor , CPA
  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 333
  • Votes 158
Quote from @Michael Plaks:

When your property is relatively inexpensive, say $200k, and you want cost segregation applied to it - is it worth it to hire a cost segregation firm and pay their fee? 

Before we explore this question, an important reminder: make sure that you can benefit from cost segregation, to begin with. I discussed this at length here: https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/51/topics/1075919-five-...

Now, back to the "is it worth it?" Assume the cost segregation firm identifies $50k worth of quick depreciation in your $200k property. With the current 80% bonus depreciation, it translates into a $40k deduction and $10k in tax savings, give or take. The firm's fee will probably eat 1/4 to 1/3 of your savings. Does not sound too great, right?

In this situation a DIY cost segregation option sounds appealing. You only pay around $500, but you have to make your own estimates for everything inside your property and enter these numbers into their software. What software? There are at least two companies that offer this service via their websites: KBKG and DIYCostSeg. Easy to find them with Google.

Should you or should you not?

1. Is DIY cost segregation allowed? The tax law does NOT define specific requirements or standards for cost segregation studies, and neither does the IRS. The IRS expects your cost seg report to be "factually intensive", "supported by corroborating evidence" and performed by a "qualified individual.” So, the answer is: there is nothing that clearly prohibits DIY cost segregation reports.

2. Is DIY cost segregation reliable? Well, what is it based on? Your own estimates. Are they reliable? If you consider yourself a "qualified individual" to make such estimates - maybe. After all, you work in real estate, right? Just remember that all software, including cost segregation software, works on the GIGO principle: garbage in - garbage out.

3. Is DIY cost segregation audit-proof? First, let's define "audit-proof." If you think of audit-proof as avoiding an audit - then no. There is no way to prevent an IRS audit from happening, despite the hyped-up claims of some tax firms. You can minimize your chances, but the chance is never zero. In fact, using cost segregation results in an unusually high depreciation deduction, which IS an IRS audit flag. Cost segregation DOES make an IRS audit more likely.

The real question is: if you happen to get audited, will your cost segregation survive such an audit? With a "real" cost segregation study, it is signed by a licensed engineer who absolutely is a "qualified individual." I have not heard of the IRS challenging, much less overturning a professionally done cost segregation study. 

Not so with DIY cost segregation. Here the IRS has a reason to challenge your credibility and the credibility of your self-produced numbers. Be prepared to defend it if the stuff hits the fan.

4. But they offer audit insurance! They do. And I highly recommend paying an extra $200 or so for it. However, it does not mean they will defend your numbers. What they will do if your DIY-ed cost segregation is audited is they will send you an engineer (you pay travel costs) to conduct a "real" cost segregation study and present it to the IRS instead of yours.

5. Then what's the reason to have a "real" study if it exists as a backup option anyway? Ahh. There is a critical one. An engineer sent by a cost segregation firm can find a lot MORE components to bonus-depreciate than you can estimate yourself. It's quite possible that they can find enough additional deductions to pay for the additional cost of their service and sometimes a lot more. The more expensive your property is - the more likely this to be the case.

Conclusion.

DIY is an option. Just like it is an option with almost anything. You have to make your personal decision, considering the time and effort it will take you to DIY it; the risk of it being done wrong, and the potential opportunities you might miss by not letting the pros handle it for you.

The more expensive your property is - the more reasons you have to hire professionals.

@Michael Plaks this post is great. There are so many details a professional firm will find vs. DIY. The tax benefit typically way more than pays for the cost of the study 

Post: Looking for a Real Estate focused CPA

Sean Graham
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  • Investor , CPA
  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 333
  • Votes 158
Quote from @Rachel Okwumabua:

Hi Everyone,

My husband and I recently converted our primary into a long term rental when we purchased our 2nd property. I'm a real estate agent and my husband has W2 income that we would like to offset with bonus depreciation. Up to this point, he has handled our joint taxes but I think we're ready to utilize a tax professional considering we want to do a cost segregation study. Any recommendations in SoCal? Also open to working with someone remote but also unclear as to how to best vet candidates.

I like what you’re thinking! There would be a lot of benefits if you can qualify for REPS. I will reach out to you directly 

Post: STR Tax Loophole/Strategy So Close to the End of the Year?

Sean Graham
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  • Investor , CPA
  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 333
  • Votes 158
Quote from @Carolyn McBride:

I'm about to go into contract on a property I want to use as an STR. I'll likely close on the property around early November and it will need small cosmetic updates, maybe a new deck, and of course new furniture set up.

Since it's so close to the end of the year, I'm wondering if anyone else has had success with the STR loophole requirements and material participation when acquiring a property with only two months left in the year? I'm planning on trying to complete 100 hours of material participation...

Did the IRS have issues with the 100 hours of material participation for only two months out of the year? What types of work were you able to capture as "material participation"? And what are the requirements for how many days the Airbnb needed to have been rented in that year?

I'm wondering if I can qualify by using just 1 or 2 bookings (under 7 days of course) for the year.

@Carolyn McBride you're on the right track! Yes you can definitely qualify for the STR loophole if you materially participate and keep the average rental period at 7 days or less. I recommend renting it out a couple times before year-end.

Material participation doesn’t mean it has to be 100 hours. You could also qualify if you spend more time on the property than anyone else involved, regardless of hitting 100 hours.

Ex. managing contractors, handling bookings, setting up the property, or dealing with guest communications, you might meet the material participation requirement without needing to track 100 hours.

The key is to document everything. The IRS doesn’t seem to have a problem with people who meet the material participation requirements even with only a few months left in the year, as long as the hours and tasks are well-documented.

Post: Need advice on a cost segregation study

Sean Graham
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  • Investor , CPA
  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 333
  • Votes 158
Quote from @Timothy Mcleod:

Hello I am in my first year of investing and have a few rental properties now.  I still have a w2 job and wanting to take advantage of maximum depreciation by doing a cost segregation study.  However I can’t find anyone my area to do it.   I could do it myself but need some direction on exactly what it looks like.  Any advice is most appreciated! 

A cost segregation firm can definitely help you maximize the depreciation benefits. It’s typically much more valuable than DIY

Post: Should I put Single Family LTR in LLC

Sean Graham
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  • Investor , CPA
  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 333
  • Votes 158

It can potentially help with asset protection by having a separate entity, but it doesn’t help from a tax perspective.

Post: Tax accountant specializing in real estate investing.

Sean Graham
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  • Investor , CPA
  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 333
  • Votes 158

Hey @Kathy Creighton-Smith you've come to the right place. So much opportunity within real estate and tax planning! 

Post: Looking for good tax accountant / attorney

Sean Graham
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  • Investor , CPA
  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 333
  • Votes 158
Quote from @Dan McEvoy:

Looking for a good tax strategist. Either an accountant specializing in real estate or tax attorney specializing in real estate

Hey @Dan McEvoy what are your needs? Do you have a real estate portfolio?