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All Forum Posts by: Scott VandenBerg

Scott VandenBerg has started 9 posts and replied 24 times.

Post: Fort Myers Florida Real Estate Investors Meetup

Scott VandenBergPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Holland, MI
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 2

Hello, looking for a REI meetup in the Fort Myers area. Anything going on right now?

Post: Tracking irregular loan payments (Land Contract)

Scott VandenBergPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Holland, MI
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 2

Hey @Brandon Turner, can you think of anyone that might be able to help?

Post: Tracking irregular loan payments (Land Contract)

Scott VandenBergPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Holland, MI
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 2

Hello,  I sold a property on Land Contract about a year ago.  We fully amortized the purchase price over 5 years with interest.  We also added a separate escrow amount for property taxes.  Buyer has been making very irregular payments (irregular in the frequency and amount).  Buyer is currently behind with payments.  I would like to produce an accurate loan statement so that we can both see where things are at.  Can anyone point me to a spreadsheet that allows for multiple irregular payment dates, and applies the correct amount to P&I.  Also, I am unsure how to handle the escrow payment as the payments are never allocated to P/I vs. Escrow.  Thank you

Post: Financing homes during redemption

Scott VandenBergPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Holland, MI
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 2

@Bill Bodziak, I would try to find an investor/hard money lender that understands Sheriff's deeds and have them redeem for cash. They could then sell it to your clients with the FHA financing for your pre-negotiated price (investor's profit will be in the sale). Tricky thing though will be the 90-day flip rule with FHA loans. Maybe the title company or a good attorney could figure that one out.

Post: Flood insurance $7000, on a $70,000 house?? Need advice please

Scott VandenBergPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Holland, MI
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 2

Brian, Could your current insurer transfer the policy to a new owner?

Post: Property liens by utility

Scott VandenBergPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Holland, MI
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 2

Has anyone ever purchased a lien put on a property by a utility? (Electric, lets say) What document is used to record the sale of the lien? Anything else to consider?

Post: Buying a subordinate lien for redemption rights?

Scott VandenBergPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Holland, MI
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by Aaron Yates:
Originally posted by Geof Greeneisen:
@Scott VandenBerg I don't know if Michigan is different than other states but here is my experience buying at sheriff sale. Once a note is purchased at sheriff sale all secondary notes lapse after the expiration of the redemption period. In Michigan redemption rights can be purchased. Once purchased however, the second mortgage can be reactivated. That second then must be foreclosed upon.
@Aaron Yates is a little off in that any deficiency judgement the bank may have claim to, lies with the original owner, not with any buyer at a sheriff sale.
If you purchase the $80k second note, highly discounted, say for $2k (as example) you can only foreclose for the amount you paid not the original value of the note. I don't think there is a good way for you to get back into this deal that has a decent likelihood of success.

Hey Geof. This is why I said I have conflicting answers. Ralph Roberts says that the bank can only go after the original owner but Annette Compo says they can go after the new owner as well and voth fornup to 7 years.

I posted her info so she can be contacted directly about it since that is what her team handles on a daily basis.

@Aaron Yates could this simply be a difference in State laws?

Post: Buying a subordinate lien for redemption rights?

Scott VandenBergPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Holland, MI
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 2

Hey BP community, I'll take my best shot at making a complicated question easy to understand without leaving out any important details... Here goes!

In Michigan: A house sold at a county sheriff sale to an investor for 35K, it has a value of 90-95K. The bank that held the 1st position mortgage was the one that foreclosed, and the investor overbid the bank by $1 to gain the sheriff's deed. There is a 6 month redemption period according to the SD. Redemption period expires in about 45 days.

I contacted the owner of the house to find out if I could buy his redemption rights - he had already sold redemption rights to the investor (he bought them to secure his interest). Owner did however clue me in that there was a junior mortgage for 80K. So, I called that bank today and it seems they will sell me the note for cheap – a few thousand (I don't think they want to own another REO property) What I am hoping to achieve is to have an interest in the property so that I can redeem it myself for the $35,001 plus interest and redemption fee.

I realize no one is offering legal advice, and I am awaiting a call back from a property attorney. I simply want to get a few takes on the strategy to compare. My specific questions are:

1)Does owning the junior lien automatically give me redemption rights, or do I actually need to foreclose? Michigan is non-judicial (I believe…)

2)Say that I redeem as a junior lien holder, would the original investor who holds the sheriff deed be able to redeem it back? (he bought redemption rights – meaning original owner quit claim to investor – I don’t know if this gives the investor any right to redeem or just that original owner surrendered any rights?)

3)If investor wants to or is able to redeem back from me, would he have to pay off my note amount of 80K?

Thanks in advance!

Post: Newbie from Grand Rapids Michigan

Scott VandenBergPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Holland, MI
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 2

Welcome Nicholas! There is so much to learn here on site. I also encourage you to check out the West Michigan REI club on Meetup.

Post: Any investors in Muskegon, Michigan?

Scott VandenBergPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Holland, MI
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 2

Hey BP, just wondering if there is anyone in the community active in Muskegon, Michigan. Know of anyone @Michael Lerch or @Brandon Krieg?