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All Forum Posts by: Scott W.

Scott W. has started 11 posts and replied 29 times.

Post: Syndicate and Preferred Return

Scott W.Posted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 1
When syndicating a deal, do you always offer Preferred Returns and if so, is the Preferred Return paid out annually or can it also just be a return that investors must average (b/w cash flow and equity gains) before any other dollars are split with the Sponsor? Thanks

Post: Initial Analysis of an area for office/retail investing

Scott W.Posted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Joel Owens:

For retail about 90% of lenders will not go above 75% ltv. If they do you will not like the interest rate quoted and the reduction in cash on cash return because of the interest rate spread to cap rate.

You didn't mention cap rate and occupancy ( stabilized or value add). Where is the money coming from? One person, a group of people in a partnership, 1031 money, a syndicate etc.

I have access to properties there.

Ideally i'm looking for properties that are 60%-85% occupied that i can buy at an 8-10+ CAP rate off of in-place NOI. The money would be coming from 1) a small group of people (4) in a partnership and/or 2) a syndicate.

Thanks...

Post: Initial Analysis of an area for office/retail investing

Scott W.Posted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Liza Hendriks:

Hi Scott,

You may want to look at a development map of the area for current and future developments to give you an idea of what the area will be like in the future. I know that helped me to get an idea of the areas. 

I used this site: http://devmap.io/cities

Good luck!

 Thanks Liza...

Post: Initial Analysis of an area for office/retail investing

Scott W.Posted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Joel Owens:

Hi Scott,

First it's all about expectations.

For retail are you talking strip centers or STNL? Are you talking mom and pop tenants or regional to national? Are you talking about urban core, suburban, or rural areas?

Different quality level between a 3 million asset and a 400,000 asset.

Are you paying all cash? Getting a loan? What LTV?

 Hi Joel - i'm looking at strip centers in areas with 1M-3M MSA.  Open to both regional and national tenants (and possibly some mom and pop in there).  Looking in the $2M-$10M range and would be getting financing (ideally 75%-80% financing)

Post: Initial Analysis of an area for office/retail investing

Scott W.Posted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 1
What are the first things you look for an area before determining if you would consider an office or retail investment in the area? I feel like I am getting bogged down trying to find the perfect area, property, opportunity, etc. (which probably doesn't exist ) and I wanted to know how others do their initial analysis of an investment opportunity in the office or retail sector? Thanks

Post: Template For Presenting To Investors

Scott W.Posted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Chris Washington:

@Scott W.

This isn't mine, but found a nice example online the other day when I was looking for something similar. Looks pretty comprehensive, so thought you might find some value in it.

https://www.biggerpockets.com/files/1203/download

Hope it helps!

 Thanks so much!

Post: Template For Presenting To Investors

Scott W.Posted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 1

I have a pro forma spreadsheet i use to analyze deals and show to my partners, etc... but i was wondering if anyone on BP had a full investor package template that they typically use (and could share) to present to investment partners (either on syndication deals or on more vanilla deals).  Not looking for the legal paperwork but more the copy-and-paste outline to follow when presenting the opportunity in a syndication or non-syndication deal.

Thanks in advance...

Post: Seller 2nd Mortgage as part of down payment?

Scott W.Posted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Derek Carroll:

i think you have a shot.  I broker loans and I'm a direct lender.  When I'm brokering my thought is you wont know unless you ask and i'd recommend you take the same approach.  

it has to be a strong deal and ideally you're experienced in this property type but yes some of the banks are getting very aggressive.  I think last time i worked a deal like this maybe 2-3 out of 10 banks were not opposed to the idea.  

Thanks for the input. Going to visit the property in the next 1-2 weeks -- if all looks good, will submit LOI (already know minimum price Seller needs to be at and it works well within my math/criteria) and put the property under contract. If accepted, i will reach out to see if you can help on this deal.

Post: Seller 2nd Mortgage as part of down payment?

Scott W.Posted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Derek Carroll:

Scott W. It's certainly possibly. I've quoted deals where the borrower only comes in with 5% equity by using a seller second. It's rare to find a bank that will be that aggressive though

At 10% equity injection many more banks were interested.

 Thanks.  So you think it's doable with a 10% cash down payment and a 15% Seller Carried 2nd?  

Post: Seller 2nd Mortgage as part of down payment?

Scott W.Posted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Christopher Telles:

I think your question is searching for a way into the deal with a limited out of pocket downstroke. If this is indeed the case then yes its very doable. 

Lenders who will lend on this structured finance purchase will most likely require the buyer to have at a minimum 10% of the purchase price into the deal in the form of a capital downpayment. The Seller carry will need to make up the difference between the buyers capital downpayment and the lenders required downpayment e.g. 20, 30, 40%, etc. The deal will also need to cover DSCR (if it doesn't, try getting the Seller to carry the 2nd where interest accumulates with no payments due until a balloon payment date in the future; be careful, know you have an exit when it balloons).

My interpretation is that @Eric Schleif is looking at this from the perspective of a CRE lender whose job it is to obtain the very best financing package for his clients. He's correct its not the best in terms of outright lending options.

Thanks for the input and yes - i am trying to limit the out-of-pocket downstroke from the usual 25% to ~10%-15%. It's an office complex that i'd be entering at a 10-11% CAP with under market rents so cash flow should cover requirements. Do you know of any lenders that I can reach out to that you think would do a deal like this?