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All Forum Posts by: Scott K.

Scott K. has started 15 posts and replied 217 times.

Quote from @Shaindy Boss:

I don't agree that you should manage things by yourself because it really depends on your priorities. Managing an Airbnb takes years of experience and even an entire team (in terms of pricing etc.) to really maximize everything. Sure if you plug vacasa into it they will do worse than what you can do because they don't give a flip but if you find a good local manager (I use Hyatus Stays) you can find they will do much better than what you can do because it's their full time focus and job. I'm in real estate (broker) but I don't want to learn the ropes of STR management

It's a little strange you feel so strongly about something you never even tried. Ask yourself who makes the most profit and has the highest ratings on airbnb? Its not the airbnbs who use management companies thats for sure. You absolutely do not need a team to set your pricing, there are lots of free automation tools out there. You also do not need years of experience, you just need time to be effective. If you dont have time, sure, dont bother. But I dont reccomend people get into this business who simply dont have the time to make it profitable. Any glance at the local market will immediately show you 50-100 airbnbs in the poconos who are for sale due to owners who didnt have time to work on them. It's not a 'passive' business.

Good riddance. The more cities and local governments fight against this awful business model the better the result for the housing market, customers, and neighborhoods.

Quote from @Riza Susel:
Quote from @Scott K.:
Quote from @Syreeta McDonald:
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I never understood this idea of 'I want an str so I can have a vacation home a few times a year'. You're just taking money away from your business when you use it personally, and in that case, you may as well not own it, and rent someone else's because 1. Cost is the same to you and 2. You get to choose a new place each time and 3. You don't have to block off dates well in advance, you can book whenever you like.

As far as the Poconos go, I'm making great money but I only have the best houses. If you're going run of the mill with a 1400 mortgage on a 2 or 3 bedroom, you'll find extreme competition and most likely won't get booked. Most people in the Poconos are struggling to rent nowadays unless they're one of the best. 

 Let me just say your tender and tone in this forum response is unptofessional. 


No need to get upset. Buying a 2-3 bedroom house means you'll be fighting among thousands for scraps. It's hard to be the best at that. If you buy larger houses like I do, it's easier to be one of the best. I've also been doing this for 5 years, it's doubtful you'll immediately be good at this. 

I meant no disrespect, but you have to face facts if you're going to invest your money. Numbers are all that matters, and a lot of people in the Poconos are losing money. I'm trying to help you not be one of them. 

Good luck... 

Scott, are you able to provide some insight for a newbie? I’m very close to entering the STR market and I may very well be taking a major risk and loss being too late to game but i did decide to do what you recommended (before seeing this post). I’m buying a 5-6BR 2Bath place with some decent sqft (about 2100+). I would love your expertise to see if I bought in wrong location (still water estates). It seems to have the highest fees for permits and STR’s in general but it’s the closest to all the major attractions.. do you have any tips and pointers to help me stand out or get started? Even as simple as assisting me get off the ground (Tobyhanna forms, Monroe forms, management team, cleaners, platforms to list and programs you may use). Obviously I’ve been some people who I have selected as management team because I’m very close to kicking off but I would love to hear more from you as well. 

Others have told me for example stick to all white and gray while others have said to go crazy with colors and make it UNIQUE…  thoughts on modern vs chic?

 Oh man. Your basically asking me to write you a course on how to run your entire business... Let me see if I can touch on the most important parts... 

Please don't go white and grey. It's going to look dated (if it doesn't already) in 3 years. It's super trendy, and super boring. You want to stand out. My most successful house is loaded with color, we even wallpapered a bit which helps images pop. 

This brings me to my most important advice - nothing matters except your listing photos. Sure you need bedrooms and bathrooms (with 6 bedrooms make sure your house septic is adequate according to your Township laws about occupancy limits) but in order to get booked compared to other houses, you need to look Instagram ready. People should see your photos and go wow that's beautiful. I use my friend who interior decorates. 

I would strongly urge you not to use a manager. They'll take all your profit off the bat. Find a cleaner, use automation software like hospitable/price labs/turnoverbnb. 

I'd rather not comment on if you bought the wrong house haha I mean, it's a bit too late for that isn't it? Do your best and if it doesn't work out, sell to another Airbnb host. They'll probably pay you more for a turnkey property. If you'd like more assistance message me personally, I'm starting an Airbnb consulting service. Good luck! Be prepared to spend the next few months working every day on this. 

Post: Sell under-performing STR?

Scott K.Posted
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Quote from @Collin Hays:
Quote from @Scott K.:

 Easily one of the biggest lies being perpetuated in this investment class, and it's gotten a whole bunch of people in deep trouble.


Sorry, what am I lying about? That STRs should only be done if they're profiting? How is that a lie? It's pretty easy to have a LTR and break even, and even have a little profit for maintenance/repairs. And it's WAY less work. If you're putting in 5x to 10x the work with an STR, and you're only getting similar returns as an LTR, I'd tell you to run, not walk away.

Post: Sell under-performing STR?

Scott K.Posted
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Quote from @John Carbone:
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My first STR cash flows. The second STR is not cash flowing. It's taking the profits from the first STR to pay the bills.

Question- Do I sell the under performing STR? And reinvest in something else? Or ride this out until I have more equity to sell? I've owned this second property for 14 months.


Here is where I think people have a disconnect…if you have a poor performing STR, why would someone else pay to buy you out and have it as a STR themselves?

People buy bad businesses all the time. They either believe they can do better, or they don't know any better. Or maybe they just want to live there!

Either way, sell immediately. An STR should easily cash flow and then a healthy profit. I'd even tell you to sell if you were breaking even. That's not worth the effort to maintain. 

It's a simple math problem. What is the total amount of money you've invested creating per year as ROI?

Let's say you put 20 percent down, plus 100k in furniture, repairs, rehab, setup costs (months of mortgage during setting up etc) that's 300k invested. You're making 120k profit a year (plus some equity appreciation of course) 

120/300 = 40% ROI. You will be very, very hard pressed to find a better property return than that. However! You said it could sell for 1.9 million. So if you sell, you're getting back 200k + 900k (value increase) roughly, so 1.1 million.

Now the math asks - could you invest that 1.1 million and produce more than the 120k profit a year you're getting now. In stocks? Probably not. In other STRs? Yes, but you'd also be looking at months, if not years to find enough properties to get that back (also consider you'd have to change markets, otherwise you're just exchanging one house for another, and you reap no significant benefits). Also consider if your income can support a mortgage for 1.9 million. Especially once you sell your cash producing property. 

Overall I'd argue keep your 40 percent ROI property. Use the profits to buy more in a year or two. But that's my personal preference of buy and hold, instead of flip. You have to ask yourself which type of business do you prefer?

Quote from @Keith Mintz:
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What does your automated message chain look like? How do you request reviews? What is your strategy for removing negative reviews? How do you deal with guest damages?

Thanks!


We have VA's that communicate with guests. If you want to remove negative reviews, you can call Airbnb/whatever platform and make that request. If guests damage something, they will be charged and if they don't pay, contact Airbnb/whatever platform and they will investigate it and may cover the costs.


 No offense but this... basically makes me think you've never interacted with a customer yourself. You've never had to fight to remove a bad review. You seem to have no insight on how hard it is to actually run this business, or the details that matter when dealing with damages with customers, etc. Are you actually involved in this business or just an investor?

What does your automated message chain look like? How do you request reviews? What is your strategy for removing negative reviews? How do you deal with guest damages?

Thanks!

Quote from @Syreeta McDonald:
Quote from @Scott K.:

I never understood this idea of 'I want an str so I can have a vacation home a few times a year'. You're just taking money away from your business when you use it personally, and in that case, you may as well not own it, and rent someone else's because 1. Cost is the same to you and 2. You get to choose a new place each time and 3. You don't have to block off dates well in advance, you can book whenever you like.

As far as the Poconos go, I'm making great money but I only have the best houses. If you're going run of the mill with a 1400 mortgage on a 2 or 3 bedroom, you'll find extreme competition and most likely won't get booked. Most people in the Poconos are struggling to rent nowadays unless they're one of the best. 

 Let me just say your tender and tone in this forum response is unptofessional. 


No need to get upset. Buying a 2-3 bedroom house means you'll be fighting among thousands for scraps. It's hard to be the best at that. If you buy larger houses like I do, it's easier to be one of the best. I've also been doing this for 5 years, it's doubtful you'll immediately be good at this. 

I meant no disrespect, but you have to face facts if you're going to invest your money. Numbers are all that matters, and a lot of people in the Poconos are losing money. I'm trying to help you not be one of them. 

Good luck... 

I never understood this idea of 'I want an str so I can have a vacation home a few times a year'. You're just taking money away from your business when you use it personally, and in that case, you may as well not own it, and rent someone else's because 1. Cost is the same to you and 2. You get to choose a new place each time and 3. You don't have to block off dates well in advance, you can book whenever you like.

As far as the Poconos go, I'm making great money but I only have the best houses. If you're going run of the mill with a 1400 mortgage on a 2 or 3 bedroom, you'll find extreme competition and most likely won't get booked. Most people in the Poconos are struggling to rent nowadays unless they're one of the best.