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All Forum Posts by: Scott Hamilton

Scott Hamilton has started 2 posts and replied 12 times.

Post: New market suggestions

Scott HamiltonPosted
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 10

Sorry for the delayed response - Our office has been slammed the last few weeks. Inflation figures came out and even more demand for mortgages than we had before.


Thank you everyone for the replies - I did my best to respond to as many as I could here and will continue to do so this weekend.

At this point, we're looking at:

Ohio - Cleveland, Toledo, Cinnci, Columbus. Leaning toward Toledo and Columbis

San Antonio

If anyone has PM or lender recommendations in the areas let me know or feel free to tag them here. I am a lender myself but don't do a ton of these types of deals so my network is more limited. I have a private lender we'd work with on acquisition but am also looking for a portfolio/long term lender likely a CU or regional bank. 

Thanks again!!

Post: New market suggestions

Scott HamiltonPosted
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 10
Originally posted by @Jim Paulson:

@Scott Hamilton I am a Realtor in Boise.  One additional market I am considering is Florida and possibly the vacation market.  I just taught a Short Sale and Foreclosure Resource class in Orlando.  With so many vacation rentals near the Orlando area that got slaughtered by Covid-19 it will be interesting to see what happens as mortgage forbearance programs run their course and stimulus checks stop subsidizing the economy.  As the country gets opened up again and people want to travel again, I think that market will bounce back quickly.

Here in Boise, our economy is one of the best in the nation.  We have been above the pre-pandemic job level for months already.  The main two things slowing our growth right now are lack of available skilled tradesmen and material shortages.

We've done very well in Boise with some assets we bought back in 2009-2012, but the cost/rent ratio is far too high for us now. Lost of demand there, and for good reason! Like you said, strong economy, and lots of people fleeing CA WA and OR to live there. It's a beautiful place.

Post: New market suggestions

Scott HamiltonPosted
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 10
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Scott Hamilton:

Hi folks,

I'm an investor out of CA. Our family has a small portfolio of properties in Northern CA as well as Boise, Idaho. We're looking for another out of state market because CA is a nightmare and Boise has sky rocketed recently... Obviously every thing is up right now, but wanted to ask the community what markets you may suggest for long term cash flowing properties. We're ok with having some construction, but will be mostly buy and hold and for now are looking at 2-4 unit buildings with a budget of $100-150k for the first deal or two. 

I've had interest in San Antonio and OKC for some time as lower cost markets compared to what we're used to. Have also heard good things about Ohio and TN. Any suggestions?

 Seen Cleveland mentioned several times here. Cleveland can be nice for out of state investors. Cleveland can also be a crap sandwich for out of state investors. The difference between a nice experience and a crap sandwich has to do with knowing the level of risk you are about to undertake. Some folks just get blinded by the pricing here and don't look deeper. Check out The Ultimate Guide to Grading Cleveland Neighborhoods for further reading on the topic.

 Thank you for this James! Will definitely take a look at the link as Cleveland is not a market we've bought in before

Post: New market suggestions

Scott HamiltonPosted
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 10
Originally posted by @Polo Vazquez:

San Antonio is a great market but I hightly doubt you will find a duplex in your budget. If you want to invest in Texas with a budge of max $150k you are going to have to look in the smaller cities. I invest in Mcallen, Mission, Edinburg area. Fourplexes run from 250-450k and duplexes 120-200k ishhhhhhhh somewhere around there. 

Hi Polo - Sorry if I potentially confused you or misspoke. $100-150k is the initial cash outlay we're planning for our first 1-2 properties. I should be able to get a four plex with 30% down, no? (Assuming the high end of our range of $450k)

Post: New market suggestions

Scott HamiltonPosted
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 10
Originally posted by @Jonathan Styer:

@Michael P. Ewwww cashflow? Who wants that?

 hate it. hate cash flow. I only want expenses

Post: New market suggestions

Scott HamiltonPosted
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 10
Originally posted by @Stephen Brown:

"We're ok with having some construction, but will be mostly buy and hold and for now are looking at 2-4 unit buildings with a budget of $100-150k for the first deal or two."

This sentence screams midwest markets. I'd recommend Toledo, Dayton, Columbus, and Cincinnati. Choose the city that interests you the most and invest there. You could easily grow a portfolio here, put down $25k on 4 duplexes at $100k purchase price.

 Seems to be lots of interest in OH. I definitely understand what you're saying here conceptually.... But 4 plex for $100k? How is that even possible in this market? Must be in a reallllllly tough neighborhood. I am skeptical, but if you have opportunities like you've described that are worth buying, send me a PM 

Post: New market suggestions

Scott HamiltonPosted
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 10
Originally posted by @Marc Rice:

@Marc Rice

Ohio*

 Seems like lots of experience on this thread from OH. Thanks Marc!

Post: New market suggestions

Scott HamiltonPosted
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 10
Originally posted by @Raul Martinez:
I would definitely recommend San Antonio! We're a lot more affordable than the other major cities in Texas. Although not as common as we used to, we still every now and then have properties that fit the criteria you described. I have actually been working with a lot of out of state Investors from Cali recently. I'd love to connect!

Thanks for the comment Raul - I've been looking for experienced people in SA so will reach out!

Post: New market suggestions

Scott HamiltonPosted
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 10

Hi folks,

I'm an investor out of CA. Our family has a small portfolio of properties in Northern CA as well as Boise, Idaho. We're looking for another out of state market because CA is a nightmare and Boise has sky rocketed recently... Obviously every thing is up right now, but wanted to ask the community what markets you may suggest for long term cash flowing properties. We're ok with having some construction, but will be mostly buy and hold and for now are looking at 2-4 unit buildings with a budget of $100-150k for the first deal or two. 

I've had interest in San Antonio and OKC for some time as lower cost markets compared to what we're used to. Have also heard good things about Ohio and TN. Any suggestions?

Post: 50k in hand, what next?

Scott HamiltonPosted
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 10

@Skye Penland

Im in a similar situation and agree with @Jaspreet Baveja. Im currently looking to do what he mentioned

Passive investment is fine, especially if you have other rentals producing profits to hold against paper losses associated with being a LP. With that said, returns are typically 8-12% CoC and ties up money for usually 3-5 year minimum per the operating agreement. For that reason, I'm trying to go the flip route since I dont want to tie up the funds for that long. Just me $0.02