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All Forum Posts by: Scott Falvey

Scott Falvey has started 4 posts and replied 22 times.

Post: Feeling Stuck - investing DTI affecting personal home purchase - lender input welcome

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@Daniel Christopher

@Steven DeMarco

@Dan Rowley

It seems DSCR loans are a good option when bumping into DTI issues. It seems good too that they require the rent income to cover the monthly payments as similar protection as the DTI is intended for.

Of course, as @Chris Seveney said, the market could change and make that positive cash flow negative, all the more reason to be conservative on the property analysis.

I appreciate the responses so far!

Post: Feeling Stuck - investing DTI affecting personal home purchase - lender input welcome

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Quote from @Robin Simon:
Quote from @Scott Falvey:

I've been doing the "research and analysis" for months now. We currently have two properties. My wife claims one as a primary residence and I claim one as a primary residence and also house hack it so it is also an investment. I was getting ready to take out a HELOC on the "investment" property, alI I needed to do was sign on the dotted line. The bank that offered the HELOC came in with the HELOC at one number, the appraisal came in higher than what we had originally thought it might, so I asked if the HELOC could be increased. The bank said the HELOC amount being offered put me at the top of my DTI even though the appraisal would have given more.

That statement concerned me because we want to purchase another personal home in about a year and because of that statement, I withdrew my HELOC application.

How do I go about investing in properties and keep my DTI down where it has minimal affect on a personal purchase in the future?

My general strategy is to buy and hold, mostly LTR but will probably consider MTR too. Should I make my investment purchases in an LLC and use DSCR loans when owner financing isn't an option.

So, in general, I'm bumping up against my DTI based on my w-2 income. That puts a damper on what we can borrow in the near future for a personal home. How do I keep investing with minimal or no impact to my personal DTI? Let me know if more information is needed.

Thank you


You definitely sound like a classic case of someone that moves towards DSCR Loans. This is the path for many, moving towards DSCR after bumping into DTI/scaling problems with conventional loans


 Robin, yes - I have a contact at Easy Street. Just haven't gotten a deal that far yet. Thanks!

Post: Feeling Stuck - investing DTI affecting personal home purchase - lender input welcome

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Quote from @Kerry Baird:

I use owner financing where possible, and then move to DSCR mortgages. I use 20% down payment on those, and they do not affect my DTI.

On the business side of things, I use business credit cards, the ones that do not report to my personal credit score.  I also use the debt snowball with all income to pay off my crazy Home Depot card when I have personal credit that is higher than my business credit.  


Kerry, are you saying you sometimes use the DSCR to pay off the owner financing?

Post: Feeling Stuck - investing DTI affecting personal home purchase - lender input welcome

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Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Scott Falvey

Your missing the point on what DTI is there for, it's there to protect people from over leveraging, yes you can find ways around it, but just recognize a change in markets can quickly make a cash flowing asset negative cash flowing and if you don't have the income to cover it the cards can fall quickly.


 Thank you Chris, wise words to keep in mind while I'm looking for that property that will generate a fair cash flow to hopefully withstand a change in the market. I'll probably have to utilize some creative financing ideas and solid due diligence on my next purchase to avoid any falling cards the best I can. Thank you.

Post: Feeling Stuck - investing DTI affecting personal home purchase - lender input welcome

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Quote from @Theresa Harris:

Unless you and your wife don't live together, I'm not sure how you claim both as your primary residence.  You can buy a house as your primary, live in it for a year or two and then turn it into a rental, so it really doesn't matter from that perspective.  It will for tax purposes and what you can and can't claim on your rental (at least it does in Canada because we can't claim interest from our mortgage on our taxes for your residence).

Your DTI will cap how much you can borrow. Even if your house is worth more, the bank will only lend you $X based on how much you can page...which is based on your income.

There is seller financing, commercial loans and other options.


Thanks for the response Theresa. My W-2 has me working out of State from my wife so we have that figured out for tax purposes. I'm learning more about the creative financing strategies so I can not only buy my next investment but also get that income to get my DTI down.

Post: Annapolis Area Real Estate Investors - May 2023 Meetup

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Quote from @Alex Failaev:

Hi @Scott Falvey!

Unusually the meetup is on the 3rd or last Wednesdays or Thursdays of the month.

I really enjoyed the last few meetups, and the group has been growing pretty well.

Check out the Facebook page for more update and such:

https://www.facebook.com/group...

Hope to see you there!


 The last week of the month doesn't work for my current schedule but I might be able to shift that in the future. I'll have to keep my eye out for meetups in MD (Annapolis area) that are in the first week of the month at this point. But things might change - thanks!

Post: Feeling Stuck - investing DTI affecting personal home purchase - lender input welcome

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I've been doing the "research and analysis" for months now. We currently have two properties. My wife claims one as a primary residence and I claim one as a primary residence and also house hack it so it is also an investment. I was getting ready to take out a HELOC on the "investment" property, alI I needed to do was sign on the dotted line. The bank that offered the HELOC came in with the HELOC at one number, the appraisal came in higher than what we had originally thought it might, so I asked if the HELOC could be increased. The bank said the HELOC amount being offered put me at the top of my DTI even though the appraisal would have given more.

That statement concerned me because we want to purchase another personal home in about a year and because of that statement, I withdrew my HELOC application.

How do I go about investing in properties and keep my DTI down where it has minimal affect on a personal purchase in the future?

My general strategy is to buy and hold, mostly LTR but will probably consider MTR too. Should I make my investment purchases in an LLC and use DSCR loans when owner financing isn't an option.

So, in general, I'm bumping up against my DTI based on my w-2 income. That puts a damper on what we can borrow in the near future for a personal home. How do I keep investing with minimal or no impact to my personal DTI? Let me know if more information is needed.

Thank you

Post: Annapolis Area Real Estate Investors - May 2023 Meetup

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Thanks for the quick reply Alex. I travel out of the State pretty frequently and trying to be able to schedule getting to a meet up on a fairly regular basis.

Post: Annapolis Area Real Estate Investors - May 2023 Meetup

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Is the meet up always at the end of the month?

Post: Analysis Paralysis - do I change my preferred market to get cash flow properties

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Quote from @Joe Villeneuve:
Quote from @Ned Carey:

@Scott Falvey
        "I also hear the expression that HOA fees don't go down, but how does that compare to maintaining a single family property? That cost doesn't go down either unless you invest the time/money up front to reduce the longer term costs."


One problem with condos is you have no control. If a condo is poorly run it can hurt. As you mentioned in the above quote you do have some control over costs for non condo/HOA prperties.

Regarding Multi family - Why?  Multi family is NOT automaticaly better. Back to what @Joe Villeneuve says; choose based on makeing money. If a SFH will bring a better return go that way. In Baltimore city SFHs tended to bring much better cash flow returns than Multi Family.

PS: since you are new Joe V. would be a good guy to follow.. HIs posts are alwys wise.

PPS: He has more votes than posts.  He got them the legitimate way by earning them with good posts. 

Thanks Ned.  I assure you, the feeling is mutual.
Now back to the topic.  "Follow the Money".  If you want to collect properties, buy anything that you can get, based on what it will take for the Seller to agree to terms...regardless of how much money you lose.  If you want to make money (look up  the word "investing" in the dictionary), then you only buy based on what terms "you" will agree to, and ONLY when those terms make you money. 

Investing - 1: to commit (money) in order to earn a financial return (Merriam-Webster)

I think this is what we're all trying to do, at least this is what I'm trying to do.

The definition certainly brings things back to basics.