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All Forum Posts by: Scott Em

Scott Em has started 4 posts and replied 15 times.

Originally posted by @Patrick O.:

Sounds like your simplest solution would be to partner up with the co-borrower. Sounds like it's a bit risky on your own if you're not able to secure the loan on your own and also haven't been able to save enough cash to come up with 25% down. Obviously, if the co-borrower is willing to sign they must have some level of interest in either the property or your plan to be a landlord. This will limit the risk for both parties also. Another positive is that your rental income will have a w2 and you will still be eligible for a future 203k loan and will have gained experience as a landlord all while building some equity

 Thank you for your reply Patrick. My question is what exactly do you mean by partner up? Sorry if this seems like a stupid question!

Originally posted by @Albert Bui:
Originally posted by @Scott Em:

Hi all! I understand that in order to use a 203k with a non occupying co borrower for anything between 2-4 units (basically other than a SFR), the down payment increases from the 3.5% to 25%. I am a bartender and the majority of my income comes in the form of cash. While I can afford payments, I simply cannot show it through wage reports and bank statements. Thus, my income is insufficient. I have a willing non occupying co borrower who's income more than makes up for my lack thereof, however I do not have the capital for a 25% downpayment. What, if any, are some creative ways around this? I understand the reasoning for the increase in downpayment, however in my case my co borrower is not doing this as an investment strategy, but simply to aid myself. Thanks in advance for the replies!

 simple you get your non occupant co borrower to be a "occupant," then you will be reduced back to 3.5% down payment instead of 25% down.

FHA has a restriction on non occupant coborrowers on 2-4 unit properties because of the risk level.

Thanks for your replies Albert. The co borrower has a property that he pays a mortgage on and is not interested in occupying another. What would he have to do in order to officially become an occupant (I believe he would have to have this as his "primary residence", correct?)? Would this status affect his other financials, including his income, mortgage, etc.? Also, would he be qualified for the FHA loan considering he owns other property?

@Michael Cohen yes. 

@Michael Cohen Thanks for the reply. Well, this directly contradicts what my lender told me were FHA guidelines. According the them, the co-borrower drives the increase on the downpayment requirement for a multi family 203k. Do I need a new lender??

Hi all! I understand that in order to use a 203k with a non occupying co borrower for anything between 2-4 units (basically other than a SFR), the down payment increases from the 3.5% to 25%. I am a bartender and the majority of my income comes in the form of cash. While I can afford payments, I simply cannot show it through wage reports and bank statements. Thus, my income is insufficient. I have a willing non occupying co borrower who's income more than makes up for my lack thereof, however I do not have the capital for a 25% downpayment. What, if any, are some creative ways around this? I understand the reasoning for the increase in downpayment, however in my case my co borrower is not doing this as an investment strategy, but simply to aid myself. Thanks in advance for the replies!