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All Forum Posts by: Scott Anderle

Scott Anderle has started 2 posts and replied 21 times.

Post: Strategies for second property

Scott AnderlePosted
  • Property Manager
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 16

Can you get a second FHA? @Jackson Shumaker. I was under the impression that FHA is first time home buyers. That would be a game changer is you can use it to buy your second home. 

Post: pricing manager and synching system recommendation

Scott AnderlePosted
  • Property Manager
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 16

Correction: This episode talks about Price Labs https://open.spotify.com/episode/1bS4eL80KL1rWY4vyCMjXh?si=6...

Post: pricing manager and synching system recommendation

Scott AnderlePosted
  • Property Manager
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 16

https://www.airdna.co/ is great! We only have one small property, so I manually adjust the price based on what I see for the month. 


However I look at this to get insight. Listen to Brandon Turner's podcast where someone he interviewed shared how this made a HUGE increase on her income: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1bS4eL80KL1rWY4vyCMjXh?si=6...

Post: Why getting into real estate primarily for cash flow is wrong - and even dangerous

Scott AnderlePosted
  • Property Manager
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 16
What you are saying makes sense. I love my job and plan to do this type of work forever. However, I love the idea of STR. I used to help managed STR's in Nashville. Now I have my first which is a house hack. We are itching to get another.

Our current STR has COC return of 43%, we are making on average $12,480 a year. 
If I am hearing you correctly, you are suggesting that I focus on the long term instead of short term cash flow. 

I want to get a second property. However I don't have enough cash budgeted out to put a down payment on a second STR. Based on your advice to newer investors, should I play the long term game by paying off my house early (2030)? We bought the house for $310k and it recently appraised for $400k. 


Quote from @Marcus Auerbach:
Quote from @Allan C.:

You both make good points, but like everything else the points are not absolute. Well, I fully align with Marcus that the largest value of REI is equity growth via debt paydown and appreciation. Debt paydown in my markets is 1-2x FCF and appreciation is 3-5x FCF.

I also agree with Joe in minimizing dead equity. However I favor refi as the means of equity stripping instead of selling. So many transaction inefficiencies with selling & buying... and I don't sell because I already have a stable asset that I know well. 


Yes, it takes a while to stabilize an asset. And frankly we tend to over-improve a little bit, because I don't want to touch a house again in the next decade or two. For example, we replace marginal roofs, rip out all the old galvanized plumbing because it saves me a lot over the long run. Wouldn't do that for 3-7 years.

I understand what Joe is saying, but it's a little beside my point I want to make to new investors: short-term cash flow to replace W2 with little capital is not a viable strategy. 

If cash flow is what you are after, set up a coffee trailer, wash houses, sell digital assets, launch a Shopify store, set up ATMs, buy a title company, coin laundry, a party rental business a car body shop etc.. and then invest the cash flow in real estate!


Post: (Fun with) Nashville NOOSTR Zoning & LLC Transfers

Scott AnderlePosted
  • Property Manager
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 16

Wow! What a story. When I worked with a property management company, we had someone buy a unit (single family) that had a STR and marketed it as a STR. However with zoning changing, the grandfathered expired once the property was sold. Insightful to hear this. Thank you for sharing!

Post: New to this platform. Need advice with Airbnb Arbitrage

Scott AnderlePosted
  • Property Manager
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 16

Welcome @Angelica Byrne! I live in Nashville, TN. I used to help manage 30+ STRs in the city with a McSwain Management. Now I am getting in the game myself. Right now, I have one STR that is a house hack.

There is a REI meet up happening once a month that I go to. Would be great to have you there. We are meeting This Friday (Feb 7) at 7am at Just Love Coffee, 1528 Demonbreun St, Nashville, TN 37203

 

Post: AirDNA top STR markets to invest 2025

Scott AnderlePosted
  • Property Manager
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Mark Miles:
Quote from @Travis Timmons:

AirDNA published their annual list, and the markets topping it are: 

1. Peoria, IL

2. Fairbanks, AK

3 Akron, OH

4. Columbus, GA

You can go look up the remaining 21 markets, but you get the idea. The industry is mature and margins have properly compressed. If you want real yield or cashflow, you have to buy in a non-vacation market that is not top of mind for an STR. It's the boring places that probably won't appreciate above the rate of inflation that will provide real month to month income.

I've said this before, but I would contend that we are in a "What can you do that is really hard?" market. You have to make a deal rather than buy a deal, be more appreciation focused, and be more patient. STR feels more like a strategy to break even or eek out a meager return on a great asset than a strategy to cashflow. Or you have to take a value add approach to make it worth the hassle. It kind of feels like the rest of the market - you kind of have to pick a lane between cash flow and appreciation.

Does that make sense?

Yeah I just don't see the point of buying STR at this point, the markets are so saturated. Housing prices are high, mortgage rates are high, and competition is fierce so revenue is way down

It’s one thing if you bought a while back like many of us did, so your cost basis is much lower. But for people thinking about diving in now, what’s the point? You’ll get a better return over the long-term by putting your money in the stock market. And you’ll be much more relaxed too bc  you won’t have to deal with 1 million house problems and annoying guests 😂😂😂

I think some people are diving into STR because they think it makes them look cool, or they want a cool side project. But really you're just creating a second job for yourself and one that doesn't pay very well if it even is cash flow positive at all 😆

I used to buy houses for STR but now that I've got several STRs up and running that I bought many years ago, I stopped buying STR once mortgage rates went up and housing prices went up. Over the last few years, I take all of my STR profits and dump them into the stock market and I couldn't be happier. Stock market returns have been good and I don't have the headaches of dealing with any additional houses or guests. A true win-win

I realize this is biggerpockets so we’re all supposed to act like real estate is the most amazing investment class on the planet. But it’s OK to be realistic and aware that there are plenty of other asset classes and we don’t need to all obsess over buying real estate, especially in a market where housing prices and mortgage rates are both so high. Real estate is not the end all be all panacea for building wealth, there are a lot of other options many of which will give you way fewer headaches than real estate will!

I know this is an unpopular opinion around here that you won’t see on the front page of the daily BiggerPockets newsletter, but it’s the truth


 It seems that you probably connect with David Green's podcast pretty well. I appreciate that view. My question is are you putting all of your money in the stock market, or are you still doing some level of real estate investing?

Post: AirDNA top STR markets to invest 2025

Scott AnderlePosted
  • Property Manager
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 16

@Travis Timmons Thanks for sharing this data. It def gets me thinking of Rob Absolo's Airbnb 2.0 idea, and finding places near these cities and making the airbnb itself the destination. 

In addition to that AirDNA shared this article from Search Logistics titled: Airbnb Statistics [2025]:User and Growth Data

I live in Nashville, TN. I used to work with a property management company that managed 30+ STR's. Now I have just started with my first studio airbnb. The data the pull in the article is a few years old but it says that Nashville is in the top 10 of the highest revenue STR cities. However it is not listed in the top 10 of highest demand cities (most bookings) or most listings. Seems like there is still potential here.

https://www.searchlogistics.com/learn/statistics/airbnb-stat...

Post: This ONE Change Can Boost Your Airbnb Ranking

Scott AnderlePosted
  • Property Manager
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Jacob Morgenstern:

Interesting post Garrett. We onboarded a hoemowner to our property management team in West Palm Beach just over a month ago. They had a beautiful listing and 14 great reviews but their calendar was wide open. 

After consulting with our contact at Airbnb, we were told they were ranking on page 13!!!
It took us a couple of weeks but we slowly increased their rankings unit they were on page 1 (based on search parameters of course) and they got a 10 day booking soon thereafter.

We use Price Labs to check out the date of the last booking. If more than 30 days go by with no booking, you are at risk of falling off the wagon. 

 This is a great point. and encourages me to keep monitoring and changing the price. I think what @Garrett Brown is getting at is using this in addition to other methods. Photos alone won't get the most bookings. Price alone won't get the most bookings. It's a mix of everything. In Nashville our Airbnb Facebook page was talking about how none of us were getting bookings. So I decided to go to my listing every day and change little things (upload a new picture, switch the order of the pictures, change the title of the property, add more or different info in the about section and edit price) The next day, we went from 0 bookings in January to 71% occupancy! 

Post: This ONE Change Can Boost Your Airbnb Ranking

Scott AnderlePosted
  • Property Manager
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 16

Great post @Garrett Brown, we have a vibey outdoor hang with string lights, plants and seating by a mini gas fire pit. I'm excited to take some of those pictures and see how it improves.

Something we have done that seems to gain attention is our first image is a collage of 4 of our top photos plus the property name and marketable info. Click the link below to see the our reference. 

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/842156945375355292?guests=1&...