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All Forum Posts by: Stephen Biggans

Stephen Biggans has started 1 posts and replied 2 times.

Post: I have time, How Can I Help???

Stephen BiggansPosted
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 2
  • Votes 1

Hi Meghan,

Perhaps you can weigh in on this...

I'm an agent in PA and two of the agents I work with have an LLC and are looking for an investor with them for a Mobil gas station in Florida. I wanted to get some opinions on this. They say it will net 100k/year and that the 40k investment I might make would be repaid before any profits are taking by ownership. Promissory note for the 40k. The seller is sick and needs to cash out so seller will finance loan of 37k at 4% interest with 10 year term. The plan is also to expand liquor and tobacco sales and sublease car wash space.

The arrangement would be that I get 30% equity for the 40k and the two guys who run the LLCwould put up 20k. Supposedly, it will net over 100k/year and the money I'd put up would be repaid before any profits taken.They would also manage the store and I wouldn't need to be involved in operations. He tells me the essence is that they have to maintain majority control, the benefit to me that I'd be getting the money back in addition to the equity with quarterly payments. 50k buys inventory and 30k is escrowed with interest by Mobil which supposedly comes back.

I attached the documents he sent me. Closing is supposed to be May 1, and would appreciate any advice you might have. One question I had for you is that I was wondering was whether it is logical, based on the info, that I would be putting up 40k to their 10k each and only get 1/3 equity? And which scenarios might prevent me from receiving that 40k back even if it is to be repaid prior to the other partners taking any profits? Thanks so much.

Here is the data.

ITEMMONTHLY GROSSANNUAL GROSSMARK UPGROSS PROFITCOMMENTS
Grocery45,000540,00029%156,600
Gas (Gallons)20,000240,0003 cents7,200Commission of 3 cents per gallon and the gas company pays for all credit card fees for the gas AND C-store sales.
Car Wash7509,0009,000Hand car wash rental
LOTTO – Profit6257,5007,500
Check cashing
Cig. Display
ATM1501,8001,800
Food Truck3003,6003,600Rental Income. Food truck 2 days per week.
Vending Game
Money Orders
Rebate 24 hr.6007,2007,200
Rebate Inspect.5006,0006,000
Air/Vacuum50600600
Total199,500

EXPENSES

ITEMMONTHLY AVG.ANNUALCOMMENTS
Rent3,00036,000
Electric/H20/Garbage1,40016,800
Telephone/Internet1551,860
Insurance Liability2252,700
Sales tax on rent3153,780
Employees / Payroll6,50078,000
POS Ruby5006,000
Misc. Expenses1001,200
Property Taxes & Building Insurance1,19414,328
Car wash expenseSub-Tenant pays all expense for car wash.
Credit card feesGas company pays all fees.
Total160,668

NET PROFIT $38,832 + $24,000 if owner works = $62,832 Total Owner Benefit

Perhaps someone with more experience can advise. 

I'm an agent in PA and two of the agents I work with have an LLC and are looking for an investor with them for a Mobil gas station in Florida. I wanted to get some opinions on this. They say it will net 100k/year and that the 40k investment I might make would be repaid before any profits are taking by ownership. Promissory note for the 40k. The seller is sick and needs to cash out so seller will finance loan of 37k at 4% interest with 10 year term. The plan is also to expand liquor and tobacco sales and sublease car wash space.

The arrangement would be that I get 30% equity for the 40k and the two guys who run the LLC would put up 20k. Supposedly, it will net over 100k/year and the money I'd put up would be repaid before any profits taken.They would also manage the store and I wouldn't need to be involved in operations. He tells me the essence is that they have to maintain majority control, the benefit to me that I'd be getting the money back in addition to the equity with quarterly payments. 50k buys inventory and 30k is escrowed with interest by Mobil which supposedly comes back.

I attached the documents he sent me. Closing is supposed to be May 1, and would appreciate any advice you might have. One question I had for you is that I was wondering was whether it is logical, based on the info, that I would be putting up 40k to their 10k each and only get 1/3 equity? Thanks so much.

Here is the data.

ITEM MONTHLY GROSS ANNUAL GROSS MARK UP GROSS PROFIT COMMENTS
Grocery 45,000 540,000 29% 156,600
Gas (Gallons) 20,000 240,000 3 cents 7,200 Commission of 3 cents per gallon and the gas company pays for all credit card fees for the gas AND C-store sales.
Car Wash 750 9,000 9,000 Hand car wash rental
LOTTO – Profit 625 7,500 7,500
Check cashing
Cig. Display
ATM 150 1,800 1,800
Food Truck 300 3,600 3,600 Rental Income. Food truck 2 days per week.
Vending Game
Money Orders
Rebate 24 hr. 600 7,200 7,200
Rebate Inspect. 500 6,000 6,000
Air/Vacuum 50 600 600
Total 199,500

EXPENSES

ITEM MONTHLY AVG. ANNUAL COMMENTS
Rent 3,000 36,000
Electric/H20/Garbage 1,400 16,800
Telephone/Internet 155 1,860
Insurance Liability 225 2,700
Sales tax on rent 315 3,780
Employees / Payroll 6,500 78,000
POS Ruby 500 6,000
Misc. Expenses 100 1,200
Property Taxes & Building Insurance 1,194 14,328
Car wash expense Sub-Tenant pays all expense for car wash.
Credit card fees Gas company pays all fees.
Total 160,668

NET PROFIT $38,832 + $24,000 if owner works = $62,832 Total Owner Benefit