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All Forum Posts by: Sam Ghi

Sam Ghi has started 1 posts and replied 7 times.

Post: Exceptional Credit Score

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Quote from @Jessica Lewis:

@Sam Ghi

Have you considered buying raw land doing a solar farm, cell phone towers, or micro grid. Just a thought. These tasks once set up, don't have to be maintained, moved, or blatantly do anything with them. I'm a land lover, I own 1200 acres and am also becoming a developer.  I like to think outside if the box with raw land. Hope this helps.


 Hi, thank you, yes solar/wind farming would be interesting; do you know if originating and selling carbon credits is actually feasible?

Post: Exceptional Credit Score

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Hi,

I am new to passive income, but I have exceptional credit score and I am considering infinite banking, without IUL, as it would take years to borrow over it. Instead, if I have 12-month CDs yielding 4.5% and I receive from a financial institution a personal loan collateralized by the CDs, with 4.5%+2% APR, and I invest in a low risk asset yielding 8%, I am receiving 6% annualized yield instead of 4.5%. If I pledge the low-risk asset for another collateralized personal loan with same or different lender at 7% and buy more of the low-risk, I add 1% to 6%. I may repeat some more times, I'm not doing a Ponzi scheme, while I am doing infinite banking, but through lenders. Am I missing anything? Is there a way to do infinite banking without third party lenders?



 

Post: Exceptional Credit Score

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@Sam Ghi

Lenders look at your credit score in tiers… above 720, above 780, etc.  the higher the tier you are in, the better your rate will be on your loan.

For real estate, Fannie Mae has these guidelines published:

https://selling-guide.fanniema...

For other banks it is just up to their individual lending standards.  In general, the higher your credit score, the better the rate you will get. 

Randy 

 I'm looking for a managing agent transforming highest credit score tier to low risk passive income.  A link to Fannie Mae has nothing to do with my query

Post: Exceptional Credit Score

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 @Sam Ghi

Unless you know something the rest of us don’t, you will not be borrowing at 5% (at least with today’s rates), regardless of your Fico score.  What asset category would you be securing your loan with? 

Real estate secured loans, for instance are in the 7-8% range.  Yours seems more like a personal loan, which is likely more in the 8-9% range.  12% returns are usually  not “low risk”.  You are then working with a 3% arbitrage margin IF your market swings your way.  It’s a pretty risky strategy in my book.  Then you are talking investing in options, etc.  

My friend, this is where I step aside,  as it’s just not something I’m going to even contemplate.  Speculating in asset classes outside of real estate with borrowed money is not a move I would personally make.  I wish you all the best!  

Randy 

I'm missing something: highest percentiles credit score and then what ?  Lower scores are welcome, but what is the advantage of higher scores ?  

Post: Exceptional Credit Score

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 @Sam Ghi

So I will start out with saying that while I’m technically a “Sophisticated Investor” when it comes to real estate, I am not a passive investment expert beyond that field.   I know a little about a lot beyond real estate.  So to that end, I can’t help you with green energy, carbon credits, etc with any real authority.

My take would be that your Fico score really isn’t a factor in investing.  It’s a factor in lending.  To the extent you borrow money to invest it has some influence… but not on the products you invest in, but rather your ability to borrow to invest in those products.  

Banks typically lend based on secured assets, (owned real estate, precious metals, stock portfolios), etc.  what you do with the money is likely less of their concern as long as they feel their position is secure in getting their loan repaid. If you have securable assets I would think a bank would lend to you with your superior credit.  I personally would be careful trading options with borrowed money… seems like a risky proposition.   We know nothing about your resources, so you will have to make that call.


All the best!

Randy 

Hi Randy,

Thank you, I borrow at 5%, invest low risk at 12%, pay fees and pocket a good 5%.  We ruled out real estate and stock/ERF options.  Where can we orient our interest?

Post: Exceptional Credit Score

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Quote from @Randall Alan:

@Sam Ghi

Welcome Sam!

To my knowledge most FICO scores only go up to 850... but congrats on your score.  It won't really do TOO much for you in real estate other than make sure you get the best financing rate available and qualify you to buy financed properties in the near term. As soon as you buy a property it will begin to drop due to credit usage, but that's ok... that's what it supposed to do.

Unfortunately in today's rate environment it is difficult at best to find good deals in about 95% of the country.  Ohio seems to be the best state I see that is delivering better results.  

Regardless of your FICO, you will need cash money to be able to invest in holdable real estate.  Typically about 20% down on each purchase you make.  So you can use that figure to determine an objective (ie. I'm looking to be 4 investment properties a year, etc).  Once you know your objective, I would research potential areas you want to invest (ie. Ohio, etc) and then engage an agent in that area to help you find suitable properties. 

There are many investment vehicles in real estate.  Long term rentals, short term rentals, flips, etc.  Flips definitely aren't passive... Long term rentals have the least amount of interaction required, but short term rentals (AirBnB, etc) have higher profit margins - but require a lot more attention (some companies charge 30% for management and the daily turnover service, for instance).

I would suggest you compare your potential rates of return from real estate with other investment vehicles.  In my opinion real estate isn't that attractive compared to the stock market (currently) - or even your money sitting in a high yield savings account earning 5%.  Most quote the long term stock market gain at 7% a year.  2 years ago real estate had the POTENTIAL to deliver 30%+ per year returns.  It's just not the case right now.  Prices have doubled in the past 2 years, along with interest rates.  Whether you are a cash buyer or financing your purchases those two factors have really squashed returns for NEW real estate investors right now. 

Beyond that, if you plan on your properties to be property managed, you will be paying 10% of your gross income to the property manager.  This could easily be ALL your profit in the current environment... or if not all, a significant chunk if you are financing your purchases - which begs the conversation above about other investment routes.  Most real estate investors are sitting idle right now because of the Fed rate hikes and high property prices unless a deal makes sense to do.

I wish you all the best in your endeavors.  Just wanted to throw out a few thoughts for you to ponder.

Randy


 Understood, real estate is discouraged right now.  From a generalized passive income perspective, how do I profit from top credit score ?  Equifax and Esperian are 823 out of 850 and FICO 854 out of 900.  Is there a managing agent of multiple diversified passive income streams?  Paying 30% would not be a problem, as long as I can invest leveraging the high score.  Financing with a 5% a year mortgage, with 12% returns a year, with 5% to me and 2% to managing agent was one idea, but alternatives to real estate is also fine.  Is there a managing company on green renewable energy on cheap/free land or water, selling electricity per kWh and selling carbon credits, leveraging preferential rate financing and tax reduction for green energy ?  If I am looking for 100k to trade stock and options, where do I find a lender ?  Thank you

Post: Exceptional Credit Score

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Hi, I have exceptional FICO score (above 850 out of 900) and am looking to earn passive income on it, with low risk, for example in real estate, low tenant risk, and I am willing to pay monthly fees to managing agents, but not too much sunk fees at start. If every month I give a percentage to a managing agent, I am fine, as long as I see long term growth, even pair gains for the first 6 months and then start growing. Can you please point me in the right direction? An overarching passive income managing agent, with tax and LLC/trust expertise would be the perfect fit. I am owner of my primary house, have excellent credentials, but I am unsatisfied with my passive income and potential to become owner in 20 years of a self financing house elsewhere. Any suggestion or advertising is welcome. Thank you