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All Forum Posts by: Sam Deb

Sam Deb has started 1 posts and replied 3 times.

Quote from @Shiloh Lundahl:

Hey @Sam Deb I have done what you are asking about. I've built a portfolio up to 250 units, including 100 single-family homes using the BRRRR strategy along with lease options over the past six years. We sold off several of them over the past year or two so I'm down to about 40 single-family homes and 100 units mobile home parks now. So I can tell you that it can be done. It's not easy. And it's much easier to do it if you have a partner.


 Did you do it without partners or raising money? 

Quote from @Kevin Sobilo:

@Sam Deb, on paper that looks great no doubt.

In reality what skills and resources are most investors starting with?

1. Are they expert property managers?

2. Do they have a team in place to beat the bushes to source deals to buy?

3. Do, they have project managers and contractors on staff to manage multiple rehabs at once and to start immediately and finish without delay?

4. Do, they have the financial expertise to manage all of this exponential growth from the get-go?

Those are just a few of the reasons that growth doesn't explode magically even though on paper it looks possible.

There are some people who do have some skills/experience in aggregating and do grow faster and bigger than others.

Most investors goals are more modest perhaps to replace their W2 income and get financial freedom and that doesn't require 100 doors. Maybe 15-50 depending on if you have any other income, what kind of market you live-in and whether they are fully leveraged or not.

Also note that you can refinance with lenders other than hard money lenders. Local community banks and credit unions may have no seasoning period for their portfolio loan offerings. They also often do smaller loans that other lenders won't touch. 

Thank you for your kind help. Would you say it can be done for someone without a lot of upfront cash in about 5-7 years? 

So I’ve been researching the brrrr method, and have found it very helpful, I’ve learned that you can refinance almost immediately using hard money lenders. My question is why does it take so long for people to reach 100 doors? If I was to buy my first home fix it up, rent it than refinance immediately, it should only take 3 months or so to rehab, pull out my money immediately, so I could have about 4 doors year one. If I don’t touch that money and keep reinvesting it, by the second year I should have bought around 10 homes, than 20 my third year, 40 my fourth and so on and so on. What am I missing here? Are many people conservative and not want that many doors. And yes I do want to become very wealthy from real estate, I grew up poor and would like nice things so please don’t come for me on that.