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All Forum Posts by: Sam Booth

Sam Booth has started 44 posts and replied 226 times.

Post: So Dave Ramsey says.....

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Quote from @Karolina Powell:
Quote from @Sam Booth:
Quote from @Karolina Powell:

I started a year ago.  Formulated my goal, used a combination of leverage and self funding so that I don't get into trouble if things start to go drastically sideways, and will be achieving my goal with this last closing I have scheduled for the end of May.  After that I will be slowly improving the properties and paying down the leverage.  It would have been easy for me to continue moving forward quickly with leverage but for the time being, this will be enough.

Awesome! What did you end up getting and how many properties? Just curious and like your approach. Thanks so much for your input

 My goal was to replace my take home W2 income.  I buy in western Pennsylvania near Pittsburgh so my most expensive property all in is about 200K which is a benefit not many places have but on the other hand, we don't get the appreciation wealth making that everyone else does.  Once this last deal closes I'm going to be at 9 doors in less than a year.


 Awesome! Good for you! I am in a similar market and in contract on #4. High rates and not many deals make it tough though 

Post: So Dave Ramsey says.....

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Quote from @Karolina Powell:

I started a year ago.  Formulated my goal, used a combination of leverage and self funding so that I don't get into trouble if things start to go drastically sideways, and will be achieving my goal with this last closing I have scheduled for the end of May.  After that I will be slowly improving the properties and paying down the leverage.  It would have been easy for me to continue moving forward quickly with leverage but for the time being, this will be enough.

Awesome! What did you end up getting and how many properties? Just curious and like your approach. Thanks so much for your input

Post: So Dave Ramsey says.....

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Quote from @David Hedges:

I can't think of anyone I know who falls into the millionaire category who has not used debt at some point in time. In their business and in real estate, leverage used responsibly will move you along much faster and open more opportunities than what you find if you don't. 

The key to this would be using debt responsibly, though. Plenty of people have gone a bit too far with leverage and had disasters when the market changed and they could no longer make payments. 

Totally agree. What do you think a proper leverage amount is? 40% equity 60% debt? Just trying to get a benchmark for being conservative about debt.

Post: So Dave Ramsey says.....

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Quote from @Calvin Thomas:
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So Dave Ramsey says that when he interviewed 10,000 millioniares close to none used debt or leverage to get there. 

So how many of you out there have used leverage, maybe conservatively, to increase you net worth and cash flow with real estate? Or did you pay cash like Dave?

I feel like its not so bad to have a ton of debt if say you had a good pile of reserves for when you need it. What do you think? 


Additionally are 7% mortgages worth it?


 Dave Ramsey is for simple people and people who are in debt. Not for people who want to be real estate investors or developers.


 Appreciate the input, I think your right!

Post: So Dave Ramsey says.....

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Quote from @Marcus Auerbach:

Debt is a powerful tool like a big chainsaw. Very useful if you have a forest to cut down, but can be dangerous to those who don't know what they are doing. Working with a hand saw is a lot safer..

I am financing 3 larger deals at 7.45% now with a 20 year amortization and a 3,2,1 pre-payment penalty, which is important, because we are going to pay down the principal a little faster and probably will refinance in a couple of years, depending on what rates we see.

You have to look at interest rates in the context of inflation, rents and home price appreciation. At currently 3.4% inflation (if you believe it) the real cost of money after inflation is about 4%. Milwaukee prices are steadily going up 7%-8% each year, rents about 5% (2nd hottest market after Miami, FL!!) and it does not look like this is about to change.

A few years ago all these numbers were lower, so in my book not that much of a difference. 


 Good stuff! Glad to hear what others are doing with high interest rates! 

Post: So Dave Ramsey says.....

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Quote from @Ray Hage:

Being scared of debt is like being scared of a hammer. With debt or a hammer...you can build something with it or you can break something. Just use the debt wisely and you'll be fine. 7% is high but if you get the right property that still makes money (or that you enjoy living in), you can always refinance. 

Always have some cash reserves. One thing you can guarantee is there will be some kind of emergency in your life. Money solves that problem.

Dave Ramsey says some things that make sense, but it is rare. 

Right in, good advice! Thanks so much

Post: So Dave Ramsey says.....

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Quote from @Dan H.:
Quote from @Chris John:

Haha.  I owe like 30x my annual salary.

For me I owe about 75 times my 2022 taxable income (2023 taxable income has not yet been determine,  but I expect it to not be significantly higher than 2022 - San Diego receive tax extension due to flooding). 

Many Americans have zero financial  literacy and are irresponsible with debt.   Dave Ramsey’s preachings are appropriate for these people.

His preachings are limiting for those that are building generational wealth. 

I also find it hypocritical that anyone that has declared bankruptcy to get debt forgiven (screwing those that he owed money) is giving others financial advice..

Appreciate your input, I think your spot on!

Post: So Dave Ramsey says.....

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Quote from @Alan Asriants:
Quote from @Scott Trench:

Not many on BP will have gotten there with no debt.

But, conversely, many who are or have been retired choose to pay all debt off.

There’s an approach to get you going, and an approach to feel confident in early retirement.

Many investors who dont know what that inflection point is will continually leverage thirsting for more, and ultimately wish they’d listened to Dave.

Those who do know what “enough” is will find their journeys much faster because they levered the accumulation years.


 Well said. As humans we are all greedy. When you make a million, you want to make 2. At some point you don't need more than what you already have, and paying off debt is a great way to remove those invisible chains and give you more control.

Getting to the million without debt can take a lot of time. Debt allows you to increase the velocity of your money. 

Knowing when to stop taking risking positions is an important skill. When people make a lot, they also tend to risk a lot.

for the average person, 1 home every year for 10 years is a doable and strategy that can get you there - slow and steady but faster than the average person. 

10 to 20 cash flowing homes should be pretty good for most I would think

Post: So Dave Ramsey says.....

Sam BoothPosted
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Quote from @Dan H.:
Quote from @Chris John:

Haha.  I owe like 30x my annual salary.

For me I owe about 75 times my 2022 taxable income (2023 taxable income has not yet been determine,  but I expect it to not be significantly higher than 2022 - San Diego receive tax extension due to flooding). 

Many Americans have zero financial  literacy and are irresponsible with debt.   Dave Ramsey’s preachings are appropriate for these people.

His preachings are limiting for those that are building generational wealth. 

I also find it hypocritical that anyone that has declared bankruptcy to get debt forgiven (screwing those that he owed money) is giving others financial advice..


 Thanks for your input, on a second note do you feel like you got to pay higher interest rates off quick on mortgages or just let the tenants pay them off over time?

Post: So Dave Ramsey says.....

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Quote from @Chris John:
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This makes me feel better! How about those 7 or 8% interest rates? Does that make you wish you could pay the higher interest off quicker? I found out an extra payment goes alot further on high interest rate.

It's all at 3-4%.  I borrowed until the banks stopped me when rates were low.  

I think @Scott Trench brings up a great point when he says "Many investors who don't know what that inflection point is will continually leverage thirsting for more, and ultimately wish they’d listened to Dave", but I plan on borrowing until the grave if the numbers make sense for my children and grandchildren.

Right on, yeah 3 or 4 is alot easier then 8! Good stuff!