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All Forum Posts by: Matt Said

Matt Said has started 10 posts and replied 44 times.

Post: Implications of exiting a 1031 Exchange

Matt SaidPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 9
Quote from @John Teachout:
What exactly do you mean by "undoing a 1031"? Just selling the 2nd property rather than doing an additional 1031 into something else?

 Correct, selling but not putting proceeds into a new 1031.

Post: Implications of exiting a 1031 Exchange

Matt SaidPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 9

Does anyone know the high level implications of undoing a 1031 exchange?  Obviously the tax implication one is a big one.  If the property is sold at a loss, can you unwind a 1031 to off set the gain on the sale of initial property?

Thanks!

Post: Blue Ridge STR investment

Matt SaidPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by @Hanan K.:

@Shahid Elahi Yes! I did. We just opened our doors last week. So it’s too early to tell how it will do but so far it’s doing ok. Not great but ok. I recommend getting something smaller and marketing to one to to couples or a small family. The rentals under 200/night do a lot better in this area. I think the market is over saturated with 3-4 bedroom places IMO.  You have to find a way to stand apart for sure. We also bought in the smokies and That one is killing it!

Do you think it is just starting slow because it is toward the end of summer? Just curious what you think now? I'm debating btw the two areas that you mention to jump into the STR game? Thanks!

Curious what @Brandon Turner would decide?



Originally posted by @Ben Leybovich:

First, what most people refer to as passive in real estate is not quite passive. Nonetheless, a better question is - do you want some breathing room or some wealth? $10,000 of income is very nice, but it won't make anyone rich. Nor will $20,000. Bor will $30,000. It will make you fairly financially secure and independent, but not rich. $1M in the bank, on the other hand, makes you rich...

But, more importantly, if you got that $1M the right way, chances are pretty good that it came with $10,000 of monthly cash flow. So no need to choose.

Ask me how I know about this :)



If you assume $30k/month, it won't take very long to be "rich" and the vast majority of Americans could "live off" of $20k/month. $35k/month basically puts you in the top 1% of earners. But I agree, at $10k/month and depending on your lifestyle, that isn't wealthy.

Post: Should you buy a home for yourself first, or a rental unit first?

Matt SaidPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

I could be wrong but i think Brandon Turner owns his primary on Maui.. 

It's a triplex, he just mentioned it on a recent podcast. 

Post: Can you 1031 a property from an existing LLC to a new one?

Matt SaidPosted
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  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 9
Thanks Dave.  My partner is a relative but not a spouse, so no joint tax return.  We do file an LLC tax return.  

Originally posted by @Dave Foster:

@Matt Said, Not an uncommon problem. Some states require a domestic LLC. Some will allow you to domesticate a foreign LLC. So that will be an issue and/opportunity for you to adjust within the 1031.

It is really the tax return that reports the activity of the property that is critical. A disregarded LLC is one that does not file a tax return. All of the activity of the property is reported on your personal tax return. That makes you the tax payer for the property regardless of what name is on deed since the only way we communicated with the IRS is with tax filings. So in this event you can sell as the LLC and buy as yourself or sell as the WI LLC and buy as another disregarded LLC in the other state.

If the other member of the LLC is your spouse and you file a joint tax return then that is still technically one member of the LLC - your joint tax return. So from the 1031 perspective your WI LLC could still be disregarded if all of the activity of the property was reported on your joint tax return.

If the other member is not your spouse then it has to be a regarded entity. You can easily check to verify - if the LLC files a tax return and gives membership statements to the members then it is regarded and we have to tread more carefully.

Post: Can you 1031 a property from an existing LLC to a new one?

Matt SaidPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 9
Thanks @Bill Exeter 
  So if the 2 investors are the exact same for both LLC's, you think this qualifies as a "disregarded entity" and thus a 1031 is doable?  thanks!

Originally posted by @Bill Exeter:

Hi @Matt Said

Yes, as long as both entities are single member limited liability companies, both are disregarded entities, and both are owned by the same single member (you), it would qualify for 1031 Exchange treatment. The key is that they are both disregarded entities owned by the same person or entity. This way both entities are disregarded for tax purposes and treated as if the properties were actually sold/purchased by the same taxpayer.  

Post: Can you 1031 a property from an existing LLC to a new one?

Matt SaidPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 9

Currently have a Wisconsin LLC with 3 MF properties, we are currently selling 1 (but likely all 3) with plans to move the funds to invest in the South. Our CPA advised that it would be best to create a 2nd/new LLC in the state where we will invest next. Trying to do a 1031 exchange to avoid the tax gain as we likely want to do a buy/hold. Any thoughts if this is possible - sell from one LLC and 1031 funds to the new LLC? The LLC agreement for both old & new are the same two equal partners.

Thanks!

Post: Robert Kiyosaki The Lazy way to invest in real estate.

Matt SaidPosted
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  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 9
Thanks JOE!!!

Originally posted by @Joe Cassandra:

Geez, this thread went off the rails...

For this book, he's talking about buying distressed RE notes.