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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 2 posts and replied 8 times.

Post: Best areas for cash flow on east coast

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  • Accountant
  • Plymouth, MI
  • Posts 8
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Hey @Marylynn B. I'm looking to invest out of state since the capital I have available would not even buy a studio apartment in NY. If you could share some of the experiences you've had with your out of state investment property it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Post: New Member in NYC looking to Invest Long Distance

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  • Accountant
  • Plymouth, MI
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@Will Barnard

Thanks for the tips. I will definitely be looking into the forums for information on long distance investing.

@Brandon Turner

Appreciate the welcome. The site has been very valuable already. Definitely a resource I will use often.

Post: New Member in NYC looking to Invest Long Distance

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  • Accountant
  • Plymouth, MI
  • Posts 8
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@Joshua Lawrence

Thanks for that info. Appreciate it. Westland is definitely where I've been finding the most potential to get it at a pretty decent price.

Will reach out in the future as I get closer to buying a property.

Thanks!

Post: New Member in NYC looking to Invest Long Distance

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  • Accountant
  • Plymouth, MI
  • Posts 8
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@Joshua Lawrence thanks for reaching out. For my first property I'm looking to stay in the Westland area (and Livonia if possible, but my price point knocks me out of most deals there).

Any information on market rents in the 48185 and 48186 zips would be great. Any tips on determining market rents as I expand my search geographically?

Post: New Member in NYC looking to Invest Long Distance

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  • Accountant
  • Plymouth, MI
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 2

Hi Cierra. I'm currently working with an agent I know from back when I lived in the area, but appreciate you reaching out and offering your services. If things change I'll look you up.

Thanks all!

Post: New Member in NYC looking to Invest Long Distance

Account ClosedPosted
  • Accountant
  • Plymouth, MI
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 2

Hey all. Joined BP last week and excited to start using all the resources the site has to offer to help out with my first rental property. Given my income doesn't support the purchase of real estate in Manhattan I'm looking to familiar places back home (Southeastern Michigan) to buy my first property. All advice on rental properties is appreciated, but any advice on owning properties from a distance would be very, very helpful.

Thanks all!!

Post: Accounting on Excel, what am I missing?

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  • Accountant
  • Plymouth, MI
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 2

Aroldo,

Let me first disclaim that I do not own an investment property currently, but I am on the hunt and have conducted quite a bit of research, interviews, etc. including the build up of an Excel model to calculate potential returns, cash flows, taxes, etc. under various scenarios.

With that being said, I am an accountant and can answer several of the questions you posted:

1. Income: Application fees, reimbursements for background/credit checks (if applicable), any additional "fees" whether paid upfront or at the end of a lease (pet fees, cleaning fees, smoking fees). Generally, any payment you receive from a tenant (or even potential tenant - e.g., application fee received from an applicant, but applicant is denied - the fee is still income) outside of the deposit is income.

2. Expenses: I would model "vacancy expenses" at least for the first month you own the property, unless you have a tenant lined up. This would include utilities (albeit at an amount below average given that there are no occupants), advertising and lawn care/snow removal to name a few. You might incur some legal expenses depending on your situation (using some type of legal entity to run your investment through). Also consider the expenses you will incur yourself that are directly related to managing the property - includes basically everything except your TIME.

3. Mortgage principal: You are correct. The repayment of principal to the lender is not an expense. However, you should definitely consider it as a cash outflow when calculating your cash flows and returns. The deductible expense is the interest associated with the mortgage, so I recommend creating an Excel spreadsheet that amortizes your loan and you can link the interest component to your calculation of taxes (Excel has a formula that will build an amortization table very easily). I can send you an example of an amortization table that will allow you to link to your spreadsheets without inputting manually. As for the why - you don't get an expense for returning capital to the original party that lent it to you. Think about it this way, you don't record as income the amount the bank loans to you when you buy a house, so you don't get to deduct the amount you pay back. You only get to deduct the "cost" of that money - interest.

4. Deposit: Correct. This is not income. However, I am not sure how you would treat the deposit at the end of the lease if you withheld it due to damage to your property. My thinking is that it would be included in income since you could deduct the repairs that were being made to the property using those funds. Anyone have a more definitive answer?

In my model I have two main spreadsheets: (1) cash flows so that I can calculate returns, plan for the future, etc. and (2) income and expenses as defined by the IRS in order to calculate taxes, which will then flow to the cash flow sheet. Google IRS Schedule E and you will get a good idea on how to calculate your tax exposure. This will also make sure you pick up depreciation.

Good luck!

Post: Benefits of a LLC (or other similar business form)

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  • Accountant
  • Plymouth, MI
  • Posts 8
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During my initial stages of research and due diligence on purchasing my first RRE investment property, I've heard both arguments for and against using a LLC as the form of business out of which I should operate the property.

The knowledge I have regarding the LLC as a legal entity separate from its owner is purely academic. Can anyone provide some of the practical advantages and disadvantages of creating a LLC for RRE investing? Is possible to protect my individual assets, other future RRE investment assets, etc.? Thanks in advance for any knowledge you can give a beginner.