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All Forum Posts by: Ryan Thomson

Ryan Thomson has started 87 posts and replied 1408 times.

Post: Real Estate Investor & House Hacker Meetup

Ryan Thomson
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Hi BP Community!

Are you interested in joining a community of local, like-minded real estate investors designed to learn and grow together? If so, then we welcome you to join us for our meetup centered around creating community and sharing experiences related to Real Estate investing and House Hacking in the Colorado Springs area.

See you all at Goat Patch Brewing!

Post: VA Loan Assumption

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Quote from @Eric W.:
Quote from @Ryan Thomson:
Quote from @Eric W.:

I wanted to follow up on this thread because I am getting so much conflicting information on this topic. MOST things you read online say the VA assumable loan is intended for primary residence and you must occupy the home for certain amount of time.

However, according withroam.com which specializes in VA/FHA loan assumptions, you can assume va loans for investment. Below is straight from their FAQ:

"VA loan assumptions do not require the home to be your primary residence, making them a great option for real estate investors. If you’re interested in assuming a VA loan, you will be required to purchase the home in your name and have enough cash to cover the seller’s equity in the home. The seller must also be okay with foregoing their entitlement until the loan is paid off.

But, FHA loan assumptions require the home to be your primary residence. To qualify to assume an FHA loan, the property must be your primary residence for a minimum of one year. This means you must live in the home for more than six months out of the year."

So which is it? How can they definitively say that VA loans can be assumed for investment when there is so much out there saying otherwise?


Hey Eric. I have had a handful of buyers assume VA properties as investors last year. This is the only loan type that can be assumed by an investor. FHA and USDA loans are also assumable, but you must intend to occupy the home for 6 months.

Hey, could provide me more details on how these worked from your past experiences? I’d really like to explore this route as a possibility if it’s allowed. I have seen so much conflicting information online, but most of it says VA loans need to be for primary residence ie need to live in it. I have enough remaining entitlement to pursue this as well as down payment funds available. I’ve just never looked into it to seriously because every time I look into it I end up reassuring myself it can’t be done. I’ve considered just calling the VA to ask as well but haven’t done it. 

 @Eric W. Assumptions were super popular in the 80s. But it has been irrelevant for 40 years because rates just dropped. So there is a lot of people refiguring out how this works and what the rules are. The mortgage servicers, agents, buyers, sellers, etc. Everyone is learning how these work again. The knowledge out there is sometimes change as new closings set new precedents. Here is what you need to know (and I'm happy to jump on a call if you would like):

1. As a veteran if you assume another veterans VA loan it frees up their entitlement. This is a win for everyone!

2. VA loans can be assumed by anyone (investor, veteran who doesn't want to use their entitlement, and non-veteran) so long as the seller is willing to leave the portion of their entitlement that they used with the house. This of course needs to be made clear to the seller. And then they decide what is best for them.

3. As a veteran who already used a portion of their entitlement you need to have enough remaining entitlement in order to assume the entitlement that the seller used at the time of their purchase. You can NOT have a portion of it. It is all or nothing.

4. If you want to really know if you can assume another loan here is what you'll have to do:

Check with the VA to see how much COE you have left.

Check with the seller to see how much COE they used to purchase the property

Is the amount you have left more than what the seller used to purchase the property.

To confirm how much eligibility remains, the seller/buyer can easily request a Certificate of Eligibility (COE) online. This provides clarity on the seller's remaining VA entitlement, enabling informed decisions about future home purchases. https://www.va.gov/housing-assistance/home-loans/request-coe-form-26-1880/introduction.

Post: Can a “Subject to” Transaction be done SAFELY?

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Quote from @Don Konipol:
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@Don Konipol an other option for the person concerned with "sub-to" is to get the bank involved and do a fully legal (no cover your *** paperwork needed) assumption. The seller transfers the loan to the buyer. The seller is released of all liability. The buyer pays the equity and gets a killer rate! 

This strategy can be done for primary home buyers and for investors. I had 7 clients purchase this way last quarter. 

One of them put 17k down to get a 2.7% interest rate as an investor! Another put 100k down to get a 2.25% as a primary home and use the rest of his VA entitlement. This is an awesome way to purchase real estate right now! It gets you the low rates of "sub to" without any of the ethical or legal questions associated with it.

Ryan, thanks for sharing this information.  Real estate brokers and buyers and sellers should take note. Were these allowed assumptions any particular kind of loans? 

Thanks Don! I think it's the best way to buy real estate right now. FHA have to be primary residences. VA loans can be assumed by anyone (if the seller is willing to leave their entitlement with the home).

Post: Leveraging VA home loan

Ryan Thomson
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@Austin Williams what lenders probably won't tell you right now is the BIGGEST benefit of your VA loan is an assumption! If you are a veteran and you can qualify, you can take over another veterans loan as an assumable mortgage. This is a fully legal process that has been irrelevant since the 80s because rates have just dropped. This is NOT sub-to. You do have to pay the seller the "equity gap". This is the difference between the loan amount and the purchase price.

But if you have the cash or can pull it from another account or can get a gift for the down payment. This will free you up to get a loan in the 2 or 3% range... even in 2025!

If you can put 5-10% down, I have lenders that will loan you the rest of the equity gap as a second mortgage!

Post: How powerful is the VA loan?

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@Jerome Boudreaux what lenders probably won't tell you right now is the BIGGEST benefit of your VA loan is an assumption! If you are a veteran and you can qualify, you can take over another veterans loan as an assumable mortgage. This is a fully legal process that has been irrelevant since the 80s because rates have just dropped. This is NOT sub-to. You do have to pay the seller the "equity gap". This is the difference between the loan amount and the purchase price.

But if you have the cash or can pull it from another account or can get a gift for the down payment. This will free you up to get a loan in the 2 or 3% range... even in 2025! 

If you can put 5-10% down, I have lenders that will loan you the rest of the equity gap as a second mortgage!

Post: VA Loan Assumption

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Quote from @Elisse Glasco:

I am very interested in this! I found an amazing home in CA, and I pulled a title report and they have a VA loan on the property, I became interested in the assumption of the loan after seeing the option on their loan docs. But it's been sitting for 5 months on the market, and they can't sell it, so I was first going to approach with a assumption offer, but how do you approach with a subject-to, with purchase option offer? They are also trying to rent the home, to no avail. I feel like this could be helpful for them given the fact they can't offload it. It is the perfect home for me (as an airbnb) but it's undesirable to a regular person since it's dated (its a late 1960's home). I see the potential, since it's a very unique home that would be great as an STR, so I want to snatch it up. Any tips appreciated!


 Hi Elisse. Assumptions and sub-to are very different. Although both get the buyer an incredible rate. If you want to write up an assumption offer I can help you with that. But you do have to qualify for the seller's monthly payments as the bank is involved in the whole process and the loan is being transferred to your name. 

Post: VA Loan Assumption

Ryan Thomson
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Quote from @Eric W.:

I wanted to follow up on this thread because I am getting so much conflicting information on this topic. MOST things you read online say the VA assumable loan is intended for primary residence and you must occupy the home for certain amount of time.

However, according withroam.com which specializes in VA/FHA loan assumptions, you can assume va loans for investment. Below is straight from their FAQ:

"VA loan assumptions do not require the home to be your primary residence, making them a great option for real estate investors. If you’re interested in assuming a VA loan, you will be required to purchase the home in your name and have enough cash to cover the seller’s equity in the home. The seller must also be okay with foregoing their entitlement until the loan is paid off.

But, FHA loan assumptions require the home to be your primary residence. To qualify to assume an FHA loan, the property must be your primary residence for a minimum of one year. This means you must live in the home for more than six months out of the year."

So which is it? How can they definitively say that VA loans can be assumed for investment when there is so much out there saying otherwise?


Hey Eric. I have had a handful of buyers assume VA properties as investors last year. This is the only loan type that can be assumed by an investor. FHA and USDA loans are also assumable, but you must intend to occupy the home for 6 months.

Post: VA Loan Assumption

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Quote from @John Clark:
Quote from @Amanda Nelson:

Hello - I found a very compelling investment property and the agent and her preferred lender are suggesting that the VA loan currently on the property is assumable by a real estate investor. I've asked for the loan details so I can see the terms and fine print of the loan myself and am doing extensive research, but would love info from the community.

Have any of you ever successfully assumed a VA loan on an investment property?

Are there any questions you'd suggest asking to better understand this loan structure and its potential limitations?

Are there any resources you'd suggest looking into to understand loan assumption, especially VA loan assumption?

Thanks in advance for the help!

VA loans are for primary residences only. Yes there can be an investment component, but it must be your primary residence as well. So you can buy a four flat, live in one unit and rent the other three, but you have to live in one unit on the site.

 That is how the first buyer must use the va loan. However, an investor can assume a veteran's loan. The veteran of course has to be willing to do this. 

Post: VA Loan Assumption

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Quote from @Rizwan Ahmed:
Quote from @Amanda Nelson:

@Jay Hurst - Thanks for responding. Can you confirm you're saying VA loans are assumable for investors

I would plan to long-term rent the property from day one and would never reside in the property before renting. 


 Hello, I am looking for answer to the same question. Did you find the answer?


Thank you.


 They absolutely are assumable by investors! The Veteran has to be willing to leave a portion of their entitlement with the property. We find that about 10-20% of veterans are willing to do that. 

Post: VA Loan Assumption

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@Amanda Nelson this is very possible and I think the best way to buy real estate right now. We closed 7 assumable investor properties last quarter of 2025 in Colorado. The ROI on your money can't be beat. Some clients are putting down anywhere from 5k-125k and getting rates in the 2s and 3s for an investment property!

Happy to answer any questions you have. I have a lot of experience and knowledge around these deals.