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All Forum Posts by: Ryan Tongue

Ryan Tongue has started 7 posts and replied 40 times.

Post: Just closed on first investment! Three duplexes!

Ryan TonguePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Salt Lake City, UT
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Alecia Loveless:

@Ryan Tongue While there’s lots of opportunities in real estate/commercial real estate I’d sit down and brainstorm with a list of the pros and cons of immediately jumping into the real estate industry as opposed to pursuing a job with your engineering degree.

If you want to build up a portfolio quickly the income you can get with an engineering job might be a great starting out point with W-2 income for more down payments and purchases.

There’s also probably real estate careers where you could use some of your background. Surveying comes to mind, or development where you’d have use of your knowledge of mechanics and plans and such.

I’m not well versed in engineering but would think if you try hard you could combine the two and make yourself a niche market that you’re uniquely suited for and could benefit you financially.


 Hi Alecia, I love the idea of making myself a niche between engineering and real estate -- the trick is figuring out what that will be. It might be a good idea to look into what tech related companies are emerging with real estate-related products. Thanks for responding!

Post: Just closed on first investment! Three duplexes!

Ryan TonguePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Salt Lake City, UT
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Caleb Brown:

If you are interested in sales and commercial deals I would see about getting licensed. You can build a great business cold calling and targeting commercial deals. Could be apartments, warehouses, strip malls, etc. If there is a dynamite brokerage that specializes in commercial I would see if you can intern or join. 


 Caleb, 

Is the licensing needed to work in the commercial space the same as if I wanted to be an agent selling residential RE? Does this vary state to state? Also, what's a dynamite brokerage?

Thanks,

Ryan

Post: Just closed on first investment! Three duplexes!

Ryan TonguePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Salt Lake City, UT
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Tyler Kesling:

@Ryan Tongue -This is great, congratulations. I am only a few weeks into my journey so your original post really hits home and to see what someone who is really driven to accomplish a goal can get done in 9 months is inspiring. I would love to hear more about how your first deal went. Specifically, more on your partnership and the roles played, the funding (saw in your original post you were exploring options), and how you are managing the properties.


 Tyler,

I thought I'd respond with some advice, but in truth I'm not much farther along than you are. However, if you'd like to hear more about my journey I'd be happy to chat anytime. Just message me directly.

The biggest thing that has propelled me is building relationships. That fact that you're on this platform reaching out to people is great. It's how everything started for me...

Good luck!

Post: Just closed on first investment! Three duplexes!

Ryan TonguePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Salt Lake City, UT
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 17

Hi all!

I made my first post on BP 9 months ago. It was basically a plea for help. I knew I wanted to invest in RE, but at 22 while in college there were a few obstacles in my way. I was looking to BP for any sort of guidance -- I found it!

In the last 9 months, I formed a 3-person partnership, found a rockstar agent and through him a great lender, insurance provider, and so on. We fell in and out of a deal for a single duplex in the spring, but kept searching. I'm proud to say that we landed in what I believe to be a better deal: three duplexes from a single seller in a West Michigan location that we are very happy with. 

I'm sending out another plea! I graduate from the University of Utah in the spring with a mechanical engineering degree. I'd like to pursue sales, and for a while I thought I'd be looking in the tech industry. With how much I've learned over the last few months with these investments, I'm now thinking I might want to lean into real estate in some form or another after graduating. I'm particularly interested in the commercial space. If there's anyone who sees this that would be willing to hop on a quick 10-minute call to talk about possible career paths in real estate, I'd really appreciate it. I want to hear your stories! Message me on BP and we can set something up.

Original BP post (check it out to see how much of a dream this was for me 9 months ago): https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/55/topics/1162005-first...

Best, Ryan

On a side note, if anyone's looking for a young, motivated, and incredibly knowledgeable agent in Grand Rapids and the surrounding areas, let me know and I'd be happy to connect you.

 

Post: Termite Damage during inspection

Ryan TonguePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Salt Lake City, UT
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Steve Majors:

Looks serious to me, but repairable. If you don't feel up to a fairly significant repair, I'd walk. Otherwise, counter offer accounting for the cost of repairs. Get 2 or more estimates to treat it, and to sister the damaged boards/beams and/or replace them. Ask for an extension on the due dilligence period if necessary. 


 Thanks, Steve

I'm more concerned about the possibility of active termites than the cost to repair existing damage. I have an inspection scheduled for tomorrow for the termites, but he said without tearing back walls it's tough to know whether they're active or not. 

I plan on installing some form of termite protection after purchasing anyway, but is there anyway to make sure I'm not buying a house with a full blown infestation that could become a bigger issue?

Post: Termite Damage during inspection

Ryan TonguePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Salt Lake City, UT
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 17

Hey guys!

I'm under contract for a duplex in Muskegon, Michigan. The inspection report came back showing signs of old termite damage. I'm a new investor so I haven't dealt with this before, but I'm aware that termites can potentially be really bad. The inspector doesn't think it's serious or current, but I'd really like some further input from BP. This is what the inspector said:

"One main beam has termite damage. Also found a few floor joists with termite damage. No dust was found so it appears like this might be from past and not current. Suggest treating the areas and possibly installing sister boards to firm up the beams. The main beam also has been cut to accommodate a drain pipe. This has effected the structural integrity of the main beam. This will continue to drop over time and should be secured correctly."

Post: Finding bank for new LLC

Ryan TonguePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Salt Lake City, UT
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 17

@Chris Seveney @Nader Shariff @Wesley I.

For what reason do you all use Chase bank? I'm curious about why Chase was the unanimous opinion of you all. 

I've worked with them before for personal banking -- one issue I'm having with Chase is that they require all users on an account to be present when setting up the account. One of my partners is abroad for the next six months, and there doesn't seem to be a good way around this.

Nader, recommendations on what banks investors are using would be great. Thank you

Post: Finding bank for new LLC

Ryan TonguePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Salt Lake City, UT
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 17

Hello all,

I recently filed for a new LLC in Michigan to hold investment properties under, and I'm currently in the process of looking for a bank to open a business checking account with. Essentially, I want all cash flow/expenses to be flowing in and out of a business account rather than my personal bank accounts.

A little background information in case it's important: there are 3 partners holding equal ownership in the LLC, only one of us lives in MI. We're looking for buy-and-hold long term rental properties that need minimal rehab work to be rent-ready.

If anyone has any banking recommendations in Michigan I'd love to hear them. I'd also really appreciate any thoughts on choosing a big national bank vs. a smaller organization, as well as advice on how to filter through banking options to find a good fit. 

I understand this is fairly broad, open-ended question. If any more information is needed to respond to my post please let me know! 

Thank you for any/all responses!
Ryan

Post: Finding "red flags" on older property listings.

Ryan TonguePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Salt Lake City, UT
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

You've had some great answers. I usually look carefully at the most expensive things:

1) Foundation/Slab - small cracking and movement are no big deal, but a large crack, settling, displacement can cost a fortune to fix.

2) Plumbing - esp cast iron sewer and galvanized ( or old copper) supply lines.

3) Electrical - Knob/Tube, old original romex, no grounds, small main panel.

4) Structure - Check the attic (and crawlspace if there is one). Look at the roof ridge, any sagging or cracked walls/ceilings.

5) Roof - KInda obvious, but they are getting expensive.

6) Open permits or non-permitted work - Call the City and ask for permit history. For instance if there is a brand new kitchen but no permit, you could have problems...with resell value/future inspections/improper or dangerous work.


 Hi Bruce,

In the event that I close on a property only to find a significant crack in the foundation, if I choose to immediately sell the property would I have to disclose the damage I've found? I know that morally it would only be right to do so, but I'm wondering if legal issues could arise? 

Post: Finding "red flags" on older property listings.

Ryan TonguePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Salt Lake City, UT
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Andrew Syrios:

Knob and tube wiring and galvanized plumbing are big ones. So are fuse boxes and asbestos. There are other problems too, of course, like old windows, foundation issues, etc. but those usually stand out. Also, old properties usually have lath and plaster instead of drywall, which is harder and more expensive to fix. Furthermore, outlets tend to be ungrounded. 


 Hi Andrew,

Are the potential issues you mentioned typically caught in a home inspection during the escrow period? What sort of contractors/professionals would you suggest I have walk through the house?