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All Forum Posts by: Ryan Tierney

Ryan Tierney has started 7 posts and replied 15 times.

Post: Massachusetts ESA Addendum Form

Ryan TierneyPosted
  • Western MA
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 5

Looking for a General ESA tenant agreement for MA that I can tweak and have my attorney look at before signing. If you are willing to share your templates let me know!! 

Post: Where I See Myself Heading

Ryan TierneyPosted
  • Western MA
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 5

Hey BP, 

I am on the newer side of REI but have fully emersed myself into the community and my future goals have REI front and center. My Goal is to create a fine tuned system that will eventually lead to multiple commercial properties cashflowing enough to offset my current W2 job. I currently am house hacking a residential MF and looking for the most efficient way to achieve my goal. Here is my thought process about my next steps (Trying to have a plan in place so I have direction but also trying to not be too wishy washy as the best way to learn is to do)

I look forward to any comments or advice as I know there are some very knowledgeable people here and I value your opinion. 

In what I have heard and seen, one of the biggest parts, if not THE biggest part of REI is finding deals. I believe and have been told by numerous investors that if you are able to find a good deal, everything else will follow. Knowing this, I naturally have looked into wholesaling - Now hear me out! - I know wholesaling isnt for everyone but if you can learn to wholesale effectively and find deals then that is skill you can bring into any avenue of REI.

Once confident and able to find deals - I would then shift my focus to finding commercial deals and partnering with investors in order to achieve my goal


My Question to you BP is this. In your experience and opinion, If my ultimate goal is to do Commercial REI do you think learning how to find great deals by wholesaling for a bit is worth it? Or should I invest my time directly into learning/breaking into Commercial REI.


I dont want this to be long winded so Ill leave it at that and you have any questions let me know!

Also - If you are a commercial REI I would love to connect!

Kind Regards,


RT


Post: Advice for Bird Dogging - Finders Fee

Ryan TierneyPosted
  • Western MA
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 5

@Charlie MacPherson

Appreciate the insight on those points! Ill definitely look into connecting with an investor

Post: Advice for Bird Dogging - Finders Fee

Ryan TierneyPosted
  • Western MA
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 5

@Jim Pellerin

Jim, appreciate the response. Yes definitely not a wholesale thanks for the correction. Ill look into a marketing agreement.

Post: Advice for Bird Dogging - Finders Fee

Ryan TierneyPosted
  • Western MA
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 5

Funny situation I am in but I'm running with it. A relative in my family is selling a property in Massachusetts and it has a shared driveway with another lot/house. Both my relative and the other property owner want to sell and I have recently connected with an agent who has a lot of Buyers/developers interested in the property. This will be an off market deal and I don't have a prior relationship with this agent, but he seems to be a straight shooter. 

I am curious as to the best way to navigate this deal while solidifying a finders fee for bringing a 2.4 mil deal together and bringing it to this agent who will be representing both Buyer and Seller.

I am not an agent, just a MF investor who is just starting out. I would love to explore the wholesaling side of REI but am focusing on MF buy and holds at the moment.

It is a great opportunity in my mind to learn a bit about the ins and outs of wholesaling but want to get everyones opinion. 

Kind Regards,

-RT


  

@David Avery

Thank you for the advice! Will definitely be utilizing those phrases to get that across.

Hello all, 

I just went under contract on my first duplex and I will be owner occupying it with a 5% Mass housing loan (Similar to FHA). I am looking to accomplish a couple of things and was wondering what experience you all had with Managing an Owner occupied investment

1. I want to Manage the property myself, but don't want to disclose to tenant that I will be the owner. - So I was planning on having the narrative of - I am the manager of the property and everything will go through me. 

2. I would like to be able to utilize as many tax incentives and write offs as possible and I believe utilizing an LLC for all repairs, maintenance, etc would be a good start.

- Knowing that putting the house into an LLC may trigger a "Due on sale" clause on my lenders end I would like to not take that risk. However, my thought is to make a Property Management LLC and have all Income and Expenses come out of this account. Has anyone done this?

What are your thoughts?? 

Really looking forward to what you all have to say!

- RT

Post: Top Tier Tips: Creating Your Off-Market List For Free

Ryan TierneyPosted
  • Western MA
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 5

Top Tier Tips: Creating your Off-Market list for free

Whether you are new to REI or have been buying properties off the MLS for awhile there comes a time when you just cannot find any deals.

Welcome to today's market. I am sure I am not alone when I see a property on the MLS with one open house booked for one hour only with no other showings offered get under contract the same day as the open house. You may have even optimized your deal system enough to have been one of the 40 offers the day of the open house. But no luck on an acceptance.

This is a very familiar story and what has led me to search for an off-market deal, but what is the best way? There are a TON of different ways to find off market deals. Some of the main ones being: Acquiring a list and sending Direct Mail, Driving for Dollars, Networking with local agents/investors, building a website and having people come to you, working with wholesalers etc.

Early on in my investing journey I heard that Direct Mail was successful, but it requires a lot of up-front money and you need to consistently send them out. I do not have the resources or capital to set up a large direct mail system and I really wanted to target a handful of properties and have a direct conversation with the owners, not count on them to call me.

This led me to a pseudo driving for dollars style – I would go to showings on the MLS and would see other Multi-family houses next to the property and wonder if they would be willing to sell. Naturally I asked my self.

Q: “How do I find out who owns a property?”

A: The best way I have learned to do this (by myself and for free!) is by looking up the address on the city/town sites

  • Googling “Zoning map of (City)” will most likely bring you to the right page
  • Another great tool is to use GIS (Geographic Information Systems) mapping, most city/towns have one and you can pull up a property card of every address and see who the owner is. Google “GIS (city)”

So now you have the owners name and potentially their home address (along with a bunch of other great info!). You may choose to stop here and just send them a Direct Mail letter, but I wanted to talk to these owners as it is more personal. Every owner gets a crap load of mailers every week, and my mindset is that I will stand out more if I call.

To call, you will need to acquire their cell phone/home number. Now there are paid services out there that you can give them your criteria and they will spit you out a list of names and numbers, but you must pay for them. My mindset, again, is if I can do it myself for free, why not. I learn from the process and I am just beginning and do not have capital to utilize on a marketing system. That led me to the second Question –

Q: “How do I find their phone number for free?”

Quick Answer: Use https://www.fastpeoplesearch.com/

I am sure there are other sites out there that provide this service, but this is the one I have found that is pretty accurate and free!

So, there you have it. I normally set up an excel sheet with a couple of columns and do a handful of properties at a time. I will then call each owner and focus on creating rapport with them and getting an idea of how they have been liking REI and if they would be interested in looking at an offer I have put together for their property. I try to not just be another person calling to see if they want to sell. Be personable and network.

I hope this helps; I look forward to doing more of these as I keep learning.

Let me hear your favorite off market strategies and what you found works best in your area

-RT

I do not have any affiliation with any above links or products

Post: Top Tier Tips: My REI Journey

Ryan TierneyPosted
  • Western MA
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 5

REI is massive, as you all know. Massive in the amount of money one can make from it, massive in the hundreds of different ways to be involved, and massive with how much is required to learn in order to be successful as an investor.

I am currently starting to kickstart my journey into this world and the amount of information and the amount of learning is... Massive...Get the point yet? The perceived mountainous learning curve in order to begin down this path of investing is daunting, and you will learn something new every time you put your efforts towards acquiring a property - And that is what these Top Tier Tips are meant for. A diary of sorts, that exhibit what I have learned and what I am thinking about as I move forward with trying to purchase my first property.

You may also be a newer Investor and have no idea where to start. Well, if you are reading this then you have already an amazing discovery in Bigger Pockets. I cannot say enough about all the brilliant resources this team has put together and I hope to be able to add some value through my journey and my research.

So, what are these tips going to entail? As I said before - Everything... Have you ever walked through a house and had no idea what you were looking for? Have you wanted to explore off market deals but have zero clue where to start?

I have an unfortunate mindset of wanting to learn the intricacies about a lot of questions like the ones above. I say unfortunate because it is a double edge sword, on one end it pushes me to ask meaningful questions in order to explore more about the certain topic. This leads to a buildup of knowledge which I believe is very crucial. It also means I spend A LOT of time researching, troubleshooting, and putting in way more time than needed to get an answer... As I progress down this road, I keep in mind that once my portfolio starts to build, I will need to start trusting others and outsourcing some of this work in order to make better use of my time.

But for now, hopefully you all can benefit a little from my obsession to learn. I am writing these Tips from a view of - If I had this question, I assume others did too. Some may be specific, and I am by no means an expert, but I will do my best to provide value to you all.

I hope you enjoy and please feel free to reach out, comment, provide constructive criticism, and share if you find it helpful.

- RT

Post: Driving for dollars

Ryan TierneyPosted
  • Western MA
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 5

Looking into direct mailing to find off market deals. Unfortunately looking to owner occupy w fha loan so I have to deal with financing. I was wondering how you pull the assesor data list?