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All Forum Posts by: Ryan Sappington

Ryan Sappington has started 0 posts and replied 7 times.

Quote from @Craig Jones:
Quote from @Ryan Sappington:

Got mine all straightened out w/ StateFarm thankfully, and they had admitted it all to be a false alarm. Nevertheless, fwiw I'm attaching the endorsement below for peoples review and thoughts. 

This could be fine if it's a part-time STR. If it's full-time, then you'll still be in conflict with the part of the policy where it says the property has to be your primary residence. The endorsement doesn't change that requirement. If you have substantial personal use of the property but it's not your primary, then a second home policy with this endorsement might work.

Big picture, don't misrepresent how the property is used to the agent or underwriter.  It might be tempting to save some bucks on the premium, but you could find out later you've been paying for nothing if they refuse a claim.


 Fair callout. I'm certainly there as much or more than its actually rented out. Think I did around 50-60 total nights last year, and will likely do something similar this year...60-80. We as a family visit any particular weekend its not being rented out during the non-frigid months, and even then many times. Not sure how they'd actually track that type of activity though regardless. Certainly wouldn't have much issue showing credit card statements of local restaurant/grocery/gas purchases in that area through the year, but that seems a bit asinine to track or even think they'd request. 

Got mine all straightened out w/ StateFarm thankfully, and they had admitted it all to be a false alarm. Nevertheless, fwiw I'm attaching the endorsement below for peoples review and thoughts. 

Right here with @Bennie Bernard quizzing and curious about the best insurance option for STR in Oklahoma, oddly enough. Left a message with StateFarm to get back with me yesterday, but guessing since they're intending to cancel me on not living there full time, they'll stick with their decision. Even if they didn't, very well may be another economical option out there anyhow, from what I've heard its Foremost? Anddd.... Proper is the premier and costly option?

Interestingly enough, I just got a piece in the mail today clarifying my cancellation of my policy from State Farm. "We are sorry that we cannot continue this insurnace therefore your policy will not be renewed...Material increase in hazard as evidenced by the fact that the residence is not owner occupied as required by our policy". And also noticed today my escrow (by way of tax bump), has increased nearly $2k. A real head scratcher I'm not pleased with one bit. A reasonable person would assume if my rental burned down a couple months ago they would've left me on the hook for it all, meanwhile paid for the coverage all year long. Just a hunch. What to do or where to go for new policy TBD

Quote from @Henry T.:

Convenient, but not a good idea.  For LTR, I don't want tenants knowing I have other properties. Or worse, tenants gossiping about their landlord in common.

But if I had 20,000 properties next to each other that would be different. Concerts in the park. Tell them who to vote for. Free swimming pool. Free beer. This is now an over 55 community. etc.

Only major problem you've missed in assessment is this is "Short-Term & Vacation Rental Discussions" section
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @Ryan Sappington:

It may depend on specific area, but I asked my agent specifically for insurance for a "Short Term Rental, y'know. like an AIRBnB..." and they knew immediately which product to offer me. It's commercial insurance.

Awesome, very helpful, thanks! I attempted a very similar approach to say "look, im aiming to have this rented out for a third or up to half the year via AirBNB... and want that factored in for liability sake more than anything, not interested in any supplemental loss of rental income" .... she simply replied "Oh, ok, did not know that... good to know, I can up the liability to $1M to cover you in that regard, and add the 'Home Rental' package to it that is $271 annually". So, doesn't sound commercial IMO, but now I'm even more curious @Bruce Woodruff how much of a variance that is from what yours ended up being.   

Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

I use State Farm, but that's in Arizona. $100 a month on average...


I wasn't aware State Farm supplied STR insurance, but as I'm a longtime loyalist to them on main property and currently in closing process of first STR... getting quote and attempting to be specific on the approximate occupancy of outsiders, fingers crossed they're accustomed to it to some degree here (Oklahoma). $100/month avg seems wildly cheap though, and its potentially bc we're talking about different size/scope of properties? Mine=$600k lakefront, dwelling closer to half that...300-400k.