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All Forum Posts by: Ryan DeRobertis

Ryan DeRobertis has started 4 posts and replied 11 times.

Quote from @Marc Rice:
Quote from @Ryan DeRobertis:

I am considering my first rental/vacation property and would like it to be in Puerto Rico for a few reasons:


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1. I loved it when I went. Amazing beaches, food, nature, culture, etc. I enjoy speaking Spanish and salsa dancing and it is a great location for this.

2. It scores a 100/100 (san juan) on airdna, so it seems to have a strong rental market.

3. $$$ going into the island from the new tax incentives. It's a place to legally go and sell stock/business without capital gains. When those individuals are there for over half the year, it will bring prosperity to the island.

4. Quick/cheap flights from Philadelphia, where my primary residence is.

5. After establishing or continuing it as a rental, I'd like to move there myself for at least half the year.

Question: What are people's general opinion on PR in 2024? Is it still a good investment? Rough for a beginner? Important resources(articles, books, podcasts) to review?


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Searching properties:



Size: 0-2 bedrooms
Price range: 300k max

I've started looking on clasificados, and trying to determine where to search. I like the idea of san juan, specifically miramar, santurce, or anything 1-2km from the beach with food/entertainment really. Condo or house I am open to either, as long as it can be a reliable rental. I am sure everyone else feels the same though, so if there are any other recommended areas I'm open. Locations that are a 0-1 hour car ride from san juan to a nice town/city with more affordable areas walking distance to the beach would be interesting as well. 

Examples:

https://www.clasificadosonline.com/UDRealEstateDetail.asp?ID...

https://www.clasificadosonline.com/UDRealEstateDetail.asp?ID...

https://www.clasificadosonline.com/UDRealEstateDetail.asp?ID...

https://www.clasificadosonline.com/UDRealEstateDetail.asp?ID...

https://www.clasificadosonline.com/UDRealEstateDetail.asp?ID...


Question: What are any issues with the above? Do I at least seem to be picking reasonable properties?

Question: What other areas of puerto rico do people suggest? I really enjoyed san juan, but realize it might be the most competitive area.

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Financing:


I would like to do 20% down, or more if needed, but I would like to avoid 100% cash offers as it would likely be the majority of my liquid assets.

Question: How does financing differ from the mainland? Am I likely to get a mortgage with a 20% offer or is it too competitive? Can mainland banks be used?

Agents:

I've read/heard that areas are largely represented by specific agents. I tried to get in contact with an agent through BP's find an agent, but the concierge said BP didn't have an agent in the area.

Question: What is a good way to get in contact with an agent who can help me narrow down locations and then focus on finding properties there

Property management:

Seeing as this is my first investment property, I would like to start with property management and learn more as I progress.

Question: Is property management common in PR and are there any recommendations?

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Thank you in advance for any guidance. I appreciate the podcast and forums here!


PR is great. You can reach out to my lender at First Bank for a great 2nd home loan 10% down. It'll be hard to find a good deal while navigating the lack of MLS/clasificados there.


 Much appreciation. I am working on making it down there to rent first, learn the market better, and buy accordingly.

Quote from @Kathryn Morea:

Ryan, renting a place in PR to learn the market better sounds like a good idea.   Another idea is to partner with someone who is located in PR and better understands the market.  But honestly, if you live here, you will understand and be more patient with the investing scenario.  Everything takes longer.  Labor, supply chain (we are on an island) and red tape: from offers and closing, to funding to permits.  Island time is a real thing.  And some things that you can get in the mainland are just not available in PR.   

If it's so hard, why bother at all?  Mostly because the tax incentives are *insanely* good.  Not for a single airbnb like you are seeking (you and everyone else) but because if you start a BNB or a guest house or a hotel, you can get 40% of your investment back in the form of a tax CREDIT that you can sell for about 90 cents on the dollar.  Read that again.   That means an 800K purchase and a 200K rehab (1 million invested) can result in a 400K tax credit that results in 360K CASH back in the pocket of the investor.  

And that BNB that just got 40% of their investment back is now competing with you, the small investor with a single condo that you paid full price for with no tax benefit.  So yet, there are a lot of fresh units just hitting the market this year and new ones that will hit soon adding to the competition. 

So if you want to kill it in the PR market, maybe think bigger.  But I recommend you study it much more extensively before diving in.  I've been investing since 1989, and PR investing is harder than anything I could have imagined.  But it can be profitable. 


Thank you so much for this information. Great context. I had hear the island is massively lacking in hotels so it makes sense there are incentives for developers. 

I am working on fixing my house in Philadelphia for rental then will be looking at temporary apartments in PR.

Quote from @Kathryn Morea:

Hi Ryan,

I moved to Puerto Rico in 2020 and I am invested heavily in the market. I started REIA Rico in 2021 and have at least 2 meetings a month for real estate investors.

I'll be honest, what you are seeking is what almost everyone who reaches out from the mainland is seeking. Exactly. 20% down financing for investment property will not be easy but if you have a W-2, maybe it's possible. Not sure. Try to get preapproved from a local loan broker or Co-op. Stay away from the top 2 banks, they can take months to actually finance you and saavy agents wont accept a preapproval from them because they can take forever. Mainland banks can not finance in PR. A few rare exceptions. Finding a condo that allows Airbnb/STR will be challenging, they're rare and cost more because of it. A few years ago sellers weren't accepting offers with financing because there were so many cash buyers. That's probably changed. However, many sellers will not accept an offer subject to an appraisal. That's because the appraisals here are typically horrible. Be prepared to come in with additional cash to close due the the appraisal.

The STR market here has become way more saturated and competitive especially in San Juan. Probably buy during hurricane season (now) to get the best deal. Dec/Jan are peak STR months. Generally all months other than Sep-Nov are profitable.

STR Property management is common and I know a lot of folks doing this. When you are on the island, come to our meetings, you will meet a lot of people / resources there. Good luck.

I also plan on visiting PR(san juan for now,  maybe ponce as well) in November for fun and to learn more. Regardless of where my investment plans go, I'd be interested in coming to a meet up. Are there any around the second or third weeks of November?

Hello,


Thank you for the feedback. I definitely have some rose tinted glasses on and am drawn to the idea of 'lifestyle investing' hence why I am trying to get more realistic/experienced advice here.

Kathryn and Jonathan, if I had to summarize your feedback;

-If it seems so great, it will be competitive 
-If it is competitive, I am massively disadvantaged not being local/experienced in the market. Also, for every good deal, there could be bad deals others will try to spring on me due to my disadvantage

To that end I have been considering two paths:

A. Rent my house in Philadelphia out, and move to puerto rico as a renter with the goal to buy for myself more so than to rent for short term. My mortgage in Philadelphia is roughly $1400 and similar rentals range from $1900-2200 in my area, so I think I can cashflow it.

B. Abandon the Peurto Rico dream for now and look at more realistic/beginner friendly areas that still sport a large latin influence and strong rentals, like Florida (I've looked a little bit outside Miami..Boca Raton, Tampa, West Palm Beach, etc). Then, rent that property out, or rent my house in Philadelphia and move to Florida.

Thank you for your feedback already, any other advice or guidance you'd share?
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Also, tangental to this.. I am getting a lot of 'beginner friendly real estate guides/partners' gurus on instagram sending me messages..  It seems like they help you find a deal, work through the process, sometimes property management etc... What exactly is this? 

Isn't what they offer the same to what an investor friendly real estate agent would do? Are most of those gurus just selling courses/cutting a fee on top of an agent? I don't mean to discredit them, I am genuinely curious as to their roles/function/incentives.

I am considering my first rental/vacation property and would like it to be in Puerto Rico for a few reasons:


--
1. I loved it when I went. Amazing beaches, food, nature, culture, etc. I enjoy speaking Spanish and salsa dancing and it is a great location for this.

2. It scores a 100/100 (san juan) on airdna, so it seems to have a strong rental market.

3. $$$ going into the island from the new tax incentives. It's a place to legally go and sell stock/business without capital gains. When those individuals are there for over half the year, it will bring prosperity to the island.

4. Quick/cheap flights from Philadelphia, where my primary residence is.

5. After establishing or continuing it as a rental, I'd like to move there myself for at least half the year.

Question: What are people's general opinion on PR in 2024? Is it still a good investment? Rough for a beginner? Important resources(articles, books, podcasts) to review?


--

Searching properties:



Size: 0-2 bedrooms
Price range: 300k max

I've started looking on clasificados, and trying to determine where to search. I like the idea of san juan, specifically miramar, santurce, or anything 1-2km from the beach with food/entertainment really. Condo or house I am open to either, as long as it can be a reliable rental. I am sure everyone else feels the same though, so if there are any other recommended areas I'm open. Locations that are a 0-1 hour car ride from san juan to a nice town/city with more affordable areas walking distance to the beach would be interesting as well. 

Examples:

https://www.clasificadosonline.com/UDRealEstateDetail.asp?ID...

https://www.clasificadosonline.com/UDRealEstateDetail.asp?ID...

https://www.clasificadosonline.com/UDRealEstateDetail.asp?ID...

https://www.clasificadosonline.com/UDRealEstateDetail.asp?ID...

https://www.clasificadosonline.com/UDRealEstateDetail.asp?ID...


Question: What are any issues with the above? Do I at least seem to be picking reasonable properties?

Question: What other areas of puerto rico do people suggest? I really enjoyed san juan, but realize it might be the most competitive area.

--

Financing:


I would like to do 20% down, or more if needed, but I would like to avoid 100% cash offers as it would likely be the majority of my liquid assets.

Question: How does financing differ from the mainland? Am I likely to get a mortgage with a 20% offer or is it too competitive? Can mainland banks be used?

Agents:

I've read/heard that areas are largely represented by specific agents. I tried to get in contact with an agent through BP's find an agent, but the concierge said BP didn't have an agent in the area.

Question: What is a good way to get in contact with an agent who can help me narrow down locations and then focus on finding properties there

Property management:

Seeing as this is my first investment property, I would like to start with property management and learn more as I progress.

Question: Is property management common in PR and are there any recommendations?

___

Thank you in advance for any guidance. I appreciate the podcast and forums here!

Hey all,

A frustrating situation I (first time residential home buyer) am in;

Our inspection came in on a 2 story 1500 sq foot 1920s house(as-is) in Roxborough with 2 major concerns:

  1. Basement - Joint rot that was addressed by adding vertical supporting beams towards the end of each joint (but they lack 'snowshowing' at the base and might be advisable to add additional for support)
  2. Electric - Knob/tube wiring and 0 grounded outlets through entire the house

The issue is our inspection doesn't have an estimate, only a recommendation to get an additional specialist inspection for that to obtain an estimate. We need those estimates to negotiate credits with the seller and are within the 10 day period to close or not close. Without any estimates, I feel weak in my position to ask for credits.

Being Thanksgiving week, electricians and contractors are not responsive. Any thoughts on how to proceed? I sent out half a dozen texts to recommended electricians and am about to call as business hours open. Who might be best to contact for the basement issues?

Stressed. Any thoughts?

@David Lee Hall, III Thanks for the info, TIL. I will try this approach!

It seems like properties that I like hit the MLS and go under active contract within the day/hour sometimes even over weekends. As a semi-remote buyer(buying/visiting in Philly, working remotely at myrtle beach), it is hard to compete on timing let alone a bidding war. Having listened to a lot of guests suggest somehow contacting owners and seeing if they are interested in selling despite no for sale signs, it got me thinking perhaps I can do the same?

So would it be illegal/wrong to print some flyers or cards about wanting to buy specific houses and placing them on the houses I like as I tour neighborhoods? I am in Philly for 2 weeks and then going back to the beach until I return for more touring/streetwalking.

Anyone take this approach before and have suggestions/advice?

Thanks

@Joe P. Great advice, thank you - I suppose my real price target is closer to 300-375k (still a wide range and could go higher if I really needed), but I didn't want to exclude any lucky deals I might find. 

You're totally right about 'investment vs I'm-young-in-my-20s-and-looking-for-a-vibrant-neighborhood". I think I am trying to straddle both of these lines somehow, which is why I was wondering if doing a refurb or building on a plot might be my best option as I have a lot of "wants"? People have told me contractors are so busy they aren't taking single/duplex unit deals, but others have told me that isn't true you just need to be very careful with whom you hire. Something like a roof deck is "nice to have" and parking I figured I would ask in case there are parts of the city where parking is INSANE (fishtown) vs manageable (Manayunk?).

In regards to my girlfriend - I hope so! We both love each other very much, but due to our family history's we're a bit intimidated by marriage haha (product of multiple divorces!). Her biggest concern is safety and I can't overlook that, it would be wrong of me. I'm a visibly taller/athletic looking guy and lived in several cities before so I feel comfortable (as comfortable as one can while staying alert) in philly, but that isn't the case for her. She does intend to pay rent, probably 25-50% of what the rent would be for the unit we stay in. Which I suppose does lessen my concern a bit about lower than 20% down.

100% agree we need to see the city to decide. When I studied at Temple ~9 years ago, I can't imagine living in some of the areas my friends tell me are red-hot now. We will be visiting the city in August and staying with a family member who will drive us/walk us through all the neighborhoods, but we want to have as much information/advice as we can before going.

@Kevin M. - Thank you very much for the input. Based on my research there seemed to be mixed opinions on the 20% down, but for me the PMI feels like something I should avoid if I can. I'm not hard stuck to HAVING to hit 20% down, but once I start getting a monthly expense in the 2k+ and a PMI that is intimidating because I would be spending more than half my take-home pay if something ever happened long-term with tenants not renting. Secondly, while I have 75k for this home set aside I have another 30-40k~ in various stock I could easily sell that is already being saved towards the next place. Thirdly, this purchase is 100% on my own, if this works well in 3-5 years my GF and I will be purchasing together. Our idea is to maximize profit/cashflow on the first house and start to trade it off to increase our own comfort with each subsequent buy. All this being said - I am 100% open to something if the cash flow is there in a consistent rent area, I'm just trying to err on the side of caution since I do have a decent amount of savings even on top of this 20%(75k) down.

Summary:


From these posts, it seems I should look at a higher price point (300k+) and consider possibly not hitting 20% down if the right cash flow opportunity exists?

With this said, any suggestions about particular neighborhoods or the feasibility of building/refurbing instead of buying a completed unit?

We've even talked about looking for a modern 2 bedroom for us to live in, and then making a quick second purchase for purely investment, like a rental near Temple U (though I didn't include that in the original post to avoid making it too all-over-the-place). Is that potentially a more realistic approach?


I appreciate the advice immensely and I know I am asking some pretty high-level questions! Please advise me in the right direction if anything I am saying seems way off to those of you experienced and on the ground. I think I am in a relatively strong position for my first buy(s), and I want to maximize it.