All Forum Posts by: Ryan Burris

 If you wouldn't mind I can send an email and you child help assist with the predictions / calculation on future appreciation. And rent growth. Sonce you have much more experience in the area. I can share my current breakdown of all costs etc. 

also I haven't done a 1031 but my understanding is it's just time gated to purchase a new property? Anything else I'm missing? Or do you just mean since there not much appreciation currently there not much profit subject to cap gains when sold?

 That's part of why I made to post to get other opinions. I had figured the second one wasn't shaping up to be a good purchase. Possible best course is to 1031 exchange into better areas in milwauke or somewhere else.

the other option is to hold on to it, wait for leases to be up. Rehab / unit turn and jump into section 8 could bring the rent up a bit that way. Still might not end up worth it though.

I am still quite new to real estate with only 2 deals under me. I am making this post to give others an idea into the raw numbers of a few properties and see a breakdown as that would have helped me quite a bit. Also looking to see more seasoned investors thoughts on these deals and markets and figure out my next steps. I want to expand but am unsure at the best routes. 

Deal #1 Purchased in 2022:
Single Family home in Gary Indiana 46408
Purchase Price: 80k
Current Rent: 1000

Property Management (Vilgar Property): 10% monthly rent
Taxes:         1940 /yr | 162 /month
Insurance:    840 /yr | 70 /month
Cap Ex: 30% rough projections

Section 8 long term tenants not many issues. Cap Ex was relatively high last year due to a water line leak wiped out a good portion of the profits the Cap Ex that year was around 48%of rent since rent was lower. This year Only half way through the year Cap Ex is at only about 10%. I purchased all cash for my first deal for a few reasons. I wanted to learn and if it were to go bad id rather lose my own cash than be upside down in a bank loan. Also at the time i was worried about the 3.5% interest rates, so feel free to laugh at my stupidity there. 

CoC returns sitting close to 10% which I am happy with. There is still quite a bit of upside for this property as well current Fair market rates for Section 8 in Gary for a 3bed is 1539. Guessing an appraisal would be somewhere around the 100k mark for the property this is all speculation based on comparable properties.

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Deal #2 Purchased in Oct 22:

3/3 Duplex in Milwaukee 53204
Purchase Price 145K
Current Rent: 800/1025 (1825 total)

Property Management: Smart Asset Management 8% monthly rent
Property Tax:  1587 /yr | 133 /mo
Insurance:       1060 / yr | 89 /mo
Utilities:            1800 /yr | 150 /mo
Cap Ex: 30% projected (20% last year | 35% this year)

Longer term tenant in the one under rented unit. Cap Ex again quite high on this property, lots of repairs and issues water heater replacement, bathroom tub replacement etc. This one again was purchased all cash.

This one is hurting a bit, CoC return only at about 5% seem like repairs and cap ex issues eating me alive. if I had a loan at current rates would be losing cash each month. It is slightly under rented for the area just slowly trying to raise on long term tenants. Thinking maybe I paid too much for this property as well. Id guess a current appraisal would be somewhere 150-170k depending on how nice the units are cleaned up.

I know I am not factoring in appreciation, the plan was to purchase in cash have decent cash flow as a better means to invest money that was not doing much. Heloc / Cashout Refi after a few years and purchase more properties in the Milwaukee / Ohio areas. I do know also this short time span is always hard to tell how they are actually doing. Just wanted to share my first two deals in case it helped anyone, and get some ideas myself on next steps to expand. Let me know what you guys think please.

Hey Josh,

I am in a very similar situation to you new-ish OOS investor since my area didn't make much sense numbers wise. I have 2 properties currently one in Milwaukee another in Indiana. I'm down to show you the numbers and current situation with these properties if you would like. More information and connections are always good in my opinion. 

Ive been looking around lately in a few different areas some in Idaho and some in Montana. Single Family, and multi-family options but every property I find end up calculating at lower than a 5% ROI most sitting around 3% unless they would accept an offer much lower than their current asking price. According to property assessment over the past few years most places have almost doubled in price.

Is the market just super inflated right now? Is this typical in your areas? Possible my calculations are off?

I signed up but never got notified where to go. Double checked for the email on the 4th but got nothing. Is there a way to check if I was removed from the register list for some reason? I did pay and still have the receipt.

Hey Bigger Pockets, 

I am curious to see what your thoughts are on the things you wish you knew before your first property purchases. Could be for any purpose like renting or flipping etc.

Thanks for the welcomes everyone! 

Cody at the moment I'd prefer turn key and anything 2 units or above. The loose idea is cash flow and rental properties.

Hey everyone,

I am a new investor looking to connect with others in similar areas to learn about the markets. I have not yet purchased any property but am looking to getting my first one hopefully before this year is over. I am looking more so in Montana (Billings and west of that) and Idaho. Looking to get into multi family homes and apartment buildings. 

The current housing market does make me a bit nervous as most areas seem super inflated in price. How has this been affecting you guys? 

Things I can help with are tech and computers, videography and photography.