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All Forum Posts by: Ryan Blake

Ryan Blake has started 34 posts and replied 882 times.

Post: Tax Deed Forclosure Sales

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@Dona Miller Most hard money lenders won't lend on auctions because there is no time to do a title search. Your best bet will be to get a line of credit or find a private lender / partner with money to go in on the deal with you.

Post: VERY Newbie Question..is this even possible?

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@Kathy Green Hard money lenders won't lend on a personal home, trust me. It actually would be illegal. Hard money loans are low document loans based on hard asset. That goes directly against Dodd/Frank regulations. I think you are playing in a dangerous situation if you go the hard money route.

I also want to help give you realistic expectations. Hard money lenders will cover up to 75% of the ARV (that is the max I have seen most tend to be at 70%). Your ARV is $595k. So that would me 595k x 75% = $416.5k is your max loan amount. You won't even be able to use hard money just to cover the $500k purchase. So even if you wanted to roll the dice and owner occupy a hard money loan, it won't be enough for you.

If you don't want to use your credit/income to qualify for a 203k loan that will require only a 3.5% down payment (96.5% LTV) then you will probably need to get an unsecured line of credit. This will have a very high interest. And I don't think you would be able to get that for anywhere near $500k.

Something to think about your calculations on Profit. You have left out some key expenses. Interest on the loan for 4 months while you fix it up and sell it ($530k loan at 12% APR for 4 months = $21,200), insurance expense ($2,500), property tax expense (which I hear can be high in Florida so lets assume 2% of value but only held for 4 months = $3,500), and your realtor fees to sell with closing costs (6% for commissions and 1% for closing costs of sales price = $41,500).
This will leave you with a $3,700 loss before you pay the 1 year lease at $36k. Your net on the year would be a negative $40k.

Post: Using hard money. Seller wants POF. What do I do???

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@Dallin Wood Your HML should provide you with a letter of intent that is commonly used as a POF for offers like that. @Aaron K. was spot on with his explanation.

Post: Attempting to get my First Deal

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@Trent Danelski Here is a small list of the events I try to attend in Tarrant County.

IMPACT Grapevine - https://www.meetup.com/DFW-REI-Network-Investing-Meetup/ - Started in Bigger Pockets this group meets on the 3rd Monday of each month. Just straight information and super friendly atmosphere. Great speakers that won’t try and sell you on a program. Meets at the Dave and Busters in Euless. Free dinner provided.

IMPACT HEB - https://www.meetup.com/realestate-427/ - This is a newer group and has a power couple who lead it. They invest all over DFW and offer mentoring on top of the monthly informational meetings.

West DFWREI - https://www.meetup.com/West-DFW-REI-Group/ - This is a smaller group but provides tons of information. The leader is a pro at sub-to deals and is very giving of his time to help out new investors who are serious. The group meets 1st Saturday of each month in the Southwest Fort Worth area. There is also 1 or 2 other meetings throughout the month.

1RE Club - https://www.meetup.com/1REClub/ - This group is led by a former Rich Dad coach who has been investing in DFW since the 1980’s. Super knowledgeable and takes integrity and his Christian faith into all the deals he does. He also offers coaching where you joint venture on deals. This meeting is the 2nd Thursday of each month at the Fort Worth Botanic Gardens meeting rooms.

Texas Tuesdays Mastermind - https://www.facebook.com/events/the-sogio-building/texas-tuesday-fort-worth-real-estate-mastermind/1830836547025917/ - meets 1st Tuesday of each month and is completely free. Has info from a variety of professionals with no sales pitch other than the opportunity to go to a full day workshop with the same speaker. The full day work shops have a charge but 100% of the fee for the workshop goes to support a kids cancer fund. Free food and free adult beverages. 50+ in attendance. Meet in North Fort Worth.

Texas Investors Club - https://texasinvestorsclub.com/ - meets the 3nd Tuesday of each month and is completely free. This group is big. Like 80+ in monthly attendance. There is free food but show up early if you want to get some. There is a cash bar but you get one drink ticket if you pre-register. The event is completely free.

AREA Real Estate Investing Grouphttps://www.meetup.com/realestate-445/ - Smaller group that meets once a month. Free to attend.

Post: Private money Loan scam

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@Himanish Gupta I don't think I need to know any other info than what was provided. Stay away. You will get a request for a commitment fee or application fee as soon as you show interest to "secure" your rate. This is when you kiss that money good bye.

NEVER PAY A LENDER ANYTHING BEFORE THE CLOSING. There is too much room for scams and abuse.

Post: Hard Money Lenders and Auction

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@Syed Ahmed Most hard money lenders will not lend at auctions. They require a title search and lien to be filed. This takes time and many auctions require cash at the time of the auction or within a set number of hours (every state is slightly different). One thing that most lenders will do is refinance out a home purchased at auction. This would involve you purchasing the property with cash and then getting a check at closing when financing through the hml. I would ask around. Great source of HMLs on the BP site.

Post: Any good attorney recommendations in the Dallas/Fort Worth area?

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I second @Ronald Rohde

Post: Financal advice for a new investor

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@Kameron L Heiser Hard money may allow you to buy the property and not pass up on the deal. Just make sure you have your exit strategy set too. Will you be able to qualify for a refinance to get out from under the hard money? Or do you plan on fixing it up and selling it as a rental to another investor, essentially flipping it?

When looking for a lender, I suggest asking the following questions:

Are you a direct lender?

This will be a gateway question. If the answer is no, that means they are a broker of some type. Typically this means they will take longer to close, may not have all the information of the companies they work with, and most hard money brokers get their money by taking an existing product and adding extra points to pay their fee. The person you are speaking to should have an email address with the name of the company and work directly for that company. Otherwise you could be getting yourself in to a bad situation.

What is your investor success rate?

This is important to know but can be lied about very easily. Many don’t track this statistic. I don’t know if it is because they don’t really care or just haven’t thought of it or it is so bad they don’t want to share it. I think it is probably the most important stat. Look for groups who offer referrals to local contractors, Relators, etc. Also, look for groups that have boots on the ground in each market that know the specifics of investing in that area.

How many loans have you closed in this month?

Any good HML will know this number off the top of their head. You want a lender that is busy and closing loan in your area. Who cares if they closed 100 loans in other states, find out what they are doing in the same area you plan to be. If they are closing a lot of loans, they probably have something good to offer. A good number will vary based on the current market and the size of your metro area.

Can you share a recent closing document or HUD?

This will show you more evidence of the fees they really charge. Not all lenders will share this as they will need to get approval from the borrower before providing. If not, at least make sure that you get a term sheet. This should put in writing what the fees will be.

What is your maximum LTC and LTV?

LTC is sometimes referred to initial funding. This is the percentage of costs (purchase and rehab) covered by the loan. A general range tends to be 85% to 100% covered.

LTV is normally expressed as a percentage and that percentage is of the ARV. A general range tends to be 65% to 75% of value.

Lenders will lend the lower of the amount between LTC and LTV.

Do you require an appraisal and survey?

Most HMLs will require these. I am wary of the ones that don’t require an appraisal. Lenders that don’t require an appraisal will perform a desktop appraisal but will typically have a very conservative view on the value of the property to protect the company’s investment. This means you will be coming out of pocket more. Small-time HMLs may not require an appraisal but this could be because they will drive out and view the property themselves. Survey is a toss-up on whether or not it will be required. Know that every long term lender will require a survey and if something comes up on it when you are trying to sell or refi, you could get stuck in hard money without an easy or quick way to get out.

Is there a pre-payment penalty?

Some will require you to pay the interest through the term or another length no matter how long you hold the loan. Just make sure that you include this requirement in your costs.

Do you have relationships with refinance lenders?

Make sure that they have a good relationship with companies that will refinance the loan for you if you are using a BRRRR method. You want to see something that has low or no seasoning for a cash out refi or that may require low amount of documents.

What is your draw fee & benchmarks for the repairs portion of the borrowed money?

Know what your fees will be to take out the repair money borrowed. Draws are almost always held back until you reach certain points in the project or that work is completed. They will also charge you to have an inspection by a 3rd party to make sure the work is done. I have seen this range from as low as $100 up to $300.

Do I need to pay anything before sitting at the closing table?

There have been numerous people on BP talking about how they paid application fees but they could never get their loans closed on any deal brought to the company. This is a practice by some less than reputable companies. One I saw charged $500 upfront to be pre-approved and would never actually fund any loans. Just beware. Most reputable HMLs will not charge anything until you are sitting at the closing table and all fees will be listed on the HUD-1 closing document.

And of course, what are the points, interest, and attorney/document/admin fees for the loan?

This will vary based on region but in general 2 – 5 points, 9% - 14% APR (meaning this is the annual rate so divide it by 12 to get the monthly interest amount), and documents fees can be from $600 – $1,900. The document fees are what will vary wildly from company to company. Just know them going in so that you can properly budget. You will also want to find out if payments are interest only or if some principal is built in. Most hard money will be interest only payments on the full approved balance of the loan whether or not if you have pull the draw funds for repairs.

If you have any other questions, post them in the same thread below so that we can all learn from the answers.

Post: Hard Money Lender Scams

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@Bryan Tecson Sorry they got you. Know going forward that you should NEVER pay ANYTHING to a lender before closing. All funds should flow through a title/escrow company. You got luck it was only $2,500. There are many out there collecting $3,000 or more.

Post: Hard Money Lenders/Private Investors/Mentors

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@Jeff Smith would love to help with some answers. Below is a list of questions that I think are essential to ask any hard/private lender.

Are you a direct lender?

This will be a gateway question. If the answer is no, that means they are a broker of some type. Typically this means they will take longer to close, may not have all the information of the companies they work with, and most hard money brokers get their money by taking an existing product and adding extra points to pay their fee. The person you are speaking to should have an email address with the name of the company and work directly for that company. Otherwise you could be getting yourself in to a bad situation.

What is your investor success rate?

This is important to know but can be lied about very easily. Many don’t track this statistic. I don’t know if it is because they don’t really care or just haven’t thought of it or it is so bad they don’t want to share it. I think it is probably the most important stat. Look for groups who offer referrals to local contractors, Relators, etc. Also, look for groups that have boots on the ground in each market that know the specifics of investing in that area.

How many loans have you closed in this month?

Any good HML will know this number off the top of their head. You want a lender that is busy and closing loan in your area. Who cares if they closed 100 loans in other states, find out what they are doing in the same area you plan to be. If they are closing a lot of loans, they probably have something good to offer. A good number will vary based on the current market and the size of your metro area.

Can you share a recent closing document or HUD?

This will show you more evidence of the fees they really charge. Not all lenders will share this as they will need to get approval from the borrower before providing. If not, at least make sure that you get a term sheet. This should put in writing what the fees will be.

What is your maximum LTC and LTV?

LTC is sometimes referred to initial funding. This is the percentage of costs (purchase and rehab) covered by the loan. A general range tends to be 85% to 100% covered.

LTV is normally expressed as a percentage and that percentage is of the ARV. A general range tends to be 65% to 75% of value.

Lenders will lend the lower of the amount between LTC and LTV.

Do you require an appraisal and survey?

Most HMLs will require these. I am wary of the ones that don’t require an appraisal. Lenders that don’t require an appraisal will perform a desktop appraisal but will typically have a very conservative view on the value of the property to protect the company’s investment. This means you will be coming out of pocket more. Small-time HMLs may not require an appraisal but this could be because they will drive out and view the property themselves. Survey is a toss-up on whether or not it will be required. Know that every long term lender will require a survey and if something comes up on it when you are trying to sell or refi, you could get stuck in hard money without an easy or quick way to get out.

Is there a pre-payment penalty?

Some will require you to pay the interest through the term or another length no matter how long you hold the loan. Just make sure that you include this requirement in your costs.

Do you have relationships with refinance lenders?

Make sure that they have a good relationship with companies that will refinance the loan for you if you are using a BRRRR method. You want to see something that has low or no seasoning for a cash out refi or that may require low amount of documents.

What is your draw fee & benchmarks for the repairs portion of the borrowed money?

Know what your fees will be to take out the repair money borrowed. Draws are almost always held back until you reach certain points in the project or that work is completed. They will also charge you to have an inspection by a 3rd party to make sure the work is done. I have seen this range from as low as $100 up to $300.

Do I need to pay anything before sitting at the closing table?

There have been numerous people on BP talking about how they paid application fees but they could never get their loans closed on any deal brought to the company. This is a practice by some less than reputable companies. One I saw charged $500 upfront to be pre-approved and would never actually fund any loans. Just beware. Most reputable HMLs will not charge anything until you are sitting at the closing table and all fees will be listed on the HUD-1 closing document.

And of course, what are the points, interest, and attorney/document/admin fees for the loan?

This will vary based on region but in general 2 – 5 points, 9% - 14% APR (meaning this is the annual rate so divide it by 12 to get the monthly interest amount), and documents fees can be from $600 – $1,900. The document fees are what will vary wildly from company to company. Just know them going in so that you can properly budget. You will also want to find out if payments are interest only or if some principal is built in. Most hard money will be interest only payments on the full approved balance of the loan whether or not if you have pull the draw funds for repairs.

If you have any other questions, post them in the same thread below so that we can all learn from the answers.