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All Forum Posts by: Richard Vandenberg

Richard Vandenberg has started 2 posts and replied 18 times.

Post: Question on possible deal on a property with a reverse mortgage

Richard VandenbergPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Long Beach, CA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 9

Yes, clearly I need an attorney and I'm not coming to this sight to get all my legal questions answered. I have an attorney but he is out of town on business and I haven't been able to reach him. 

I'm simply seeking the wisdom of people that have faced a similar situation so I can base my offer on the input I receive. If I deem the advice to be poor, I shall wait to talk with my attorney over the weekend.

Post: Question on possible deal on a property with a reverse mortgage

Richard VandenbergPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Long Beach, CA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 9

I am working on a deal that has a couple of issues that I'm working through and thought I'd seek the advice BP members. It's a trust sale and does not need to go through probate.

Deal specifics:

Property has a reverse mortgage but still has plenty of equity and ARV upside.

The owner of the property passed away 2 months ago. Husband of the owner, who is not on title and has never had an interest in the property other than living there, is fighting the 2 daughters for control of the property. The property was in the deceased woman's family prior to the marriage. Both daughters held title until 2005 and transfered property into the mothers name so she could get a reverse mortgage.

The mothers will, which was recognized by the court, gives the property back to the 2 daughters after her death.

The problem:

The husband, the person still living in the property, is claiming ownership and refusing to let the daughters into the property to collect their mothers person effects. Additionally, he is fighting the sale of the property and claiming he is the legal owner. 

The daughters are paying all utilities, property taxes and other expenses associated with the property. The husband has never paid for any of the expenses of the home.

The husband is a hoarder and lover of feral cats, which he attracts by leaving food outside for them to eat. Rats and other pest have free run of the property. The neighbors are eager for him to vacate the property.

The property is located in a very liberal area of Northern CA and the attorney retained by the daughters is claiming there is nothing he can do to get the husband out of the house. 

The husband is 89 years old and the neighbors and daughters say he is mentally unstable. I have not met him because the front door is chained shut and he won't answer the door.

Question:

Does the husband have legal standing to remain in the house?

Can he claim ownership of the house based on his marriage to the wife.

If I purchase the property with him in it would it be easier for me to get him out of the property than the daughters?

What is the worse case scenario? 

Exit Comment:

For those that tell me to let the daughters evict before I buy the reason I'm getting the property is because they don't want to deal with him. 

I am getting the property at a substantial discount because of the condition of the property and the problems associated with the husband.

Thanks for your input and comments.

Richard

Post: Need help on this probate deal!!!

Richard VandenbergPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Long Beach, CA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 9

If it's going to auction the pr has limited authority. Unless he can get full authority, the sale of the property will be determined by the court.

Post: Always Invest Outside of Los Angeles as a Newbie?

Richard VandenbergPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Long Beach, CA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 9

@Logan Allec

Tell everyone you know that you buy distressed property. Talk to your mailman and ask if they know of any homes on their route that look like they're vacant. Talk to the guy that picks up your trash if there are any houses that don't put out the trash cans. Drive around. 

Once you find the vacant house ask anyone connected to it and ask them if they are interested in selling. Better yet, ask the neighbors. Every neighborhood has at least one person on the block that knows everyones business. They will tell you the story about the house and how to contact the owner or their kids. 

It's not easy and it's not fast but it works. And it produces a lot more than sitting in front of the computer looking for deals. Also, if it was easy, everyone would do it. How hard would you look for $50,000? 

Hope that helps.

Post: Always Invest Outside of Los Angeles as a Newbie?

Richard VandenbergPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Long Beach, CA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 9
Why would you want to play in the minor league when you live in the major league? Sure the LA market is expensive but the payoff is bigger. As for money needed, I've done 5 deals in the last 2 years without any out of pocket money. Find a deal and the money will find you... And I'm not talking about finding a deal on the mls.

Post: New Member from Los Angeles CA, dabbling in writing and now real estate

Richard VandenbergPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Long Beach, CA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 9
@Brian Wu Welcome. I'm in the Long Beach area and currently on my 5th flip.

Post: SoCal House Flip Dairy: Step One, The Negotiation

Richard VandenbergPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Long Beach, CA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 9
I let everyone I know that I buy and fix house as is. This was a neighbor of a friend that asked her if she knew anyone that would be interested in buying the house and she game them my number.

Post: SoCal House Flip Dairy: Step One, The Negotiation

Richard VandenbergPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Long Beach, CA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 9
They did sign off on the deal. We closed escrow last week.

Post: SoCal House Flip Dairy: Step One, The Negotiation

Richard VandenbergPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Long Beach, CA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 9

House is on the boarder of LA and OC

4 bed 3 bath 2,353 sq ft with a 6,965 lot.

Step One, The Negotiation

I received a call on December 2, 2014 from the son of parents that needed to sell the family home. Parents are in their early 80s with multiple health issues. Home hasn't been lived in for 8 years. They are the original owners of the house, built in 1965. Son lives in the Inland Empire and asked if I would be willing to go to the house prior to meeting him and cover the roof with plastic. I agreed.

Original wood shake roof in very poor condition. Roof is unsafe to walk on and called son to tell him I would not be able to cover but would meet him at the house to discuss potential sale.

Met with son at house for a walk thru. Severe hoarder situation with most rooms blocked or inaccessible. Comp of similarhome on the same block that sold 60 days ago is $594,000. Comp took almost six months to sell and was reduced $35,000. I estimate the ARV at $540,000. Estimate renovation cost is $100,000 to $125,000. Asked son if the family would be willing to do seller financing and he said yes. Based on condition of the house I offered $220,000with 100% seller financed at 5% interest with a 9 month balloon. Son reluctantly agreed and asked me to send him a written offer.

Father and mother are on title but because of the fathers condition I asked if he was able to sign legal contract and son indicated mother had power of attorney. Hopefully, this won't be a problem. At this point the son is the only person I've talked to and the one who is negotiating the deal for the family.

Son tells me mother is in denial about the condition of home and refuses to sign off on the offer. After raising offer to $250,000 the mother asks for son to find other potential buyers. After almost 2months of negotiations we settle on $300,000 with $100,000 down and $200,000 seller financed at 5% interest with a 6 month balloon. Escrow opens on Feb 2, 2015.

Mother believes everything in the house has value and wants to go through it and box it up for storage. Family agrees to clean out majority of house before close of escrow but after 3 weeks there has been little to no progress. Additionally, mother refuses to give me a key to the house or to enter without the son being there. I sense a problem with the deal and ask to meet with the mother. No reply. After several calls and texts, the son and mother agree to meet at escrow office. While I have compassion for her situation, my investor partnersare getting skittish about funding the deal and decide to back out.

I now have a house in escrow but no investors. I need to find $100,000 to close escrow and another $100,000 plus to fix the property. I have two options. I can flip the deal to another investor or I can renegotiate the deal and ask the sellers for 100% financing. I meet with several investors and don't like their behavior or their offers. One of the investors indicates he would like to partner with me on the house. For a 50% cut of the net profit, He will pay for and manage the renovation. I look at his current project and like his work and his crew. Renovation costs covered. Time to talk to the sellers about 100% financing. 

March 3, 2015. This is my first meeting with the mother and I can see that she is having a difficult time letting go of the house and all the stuff in it. I tell her I know how difficult this must be for her and tell her my goal with the house is bring it back to the day she first moved into it with her family. I also tell her that we need to change the deal to include 100% financing. Mother and son tell me they will discuss that evening and get back to me the next day. They agree to 100% financing and I tell escrow we can close.

Everything looks good and escrow tells me we can close in 2 days. At this point title says they won't issue insurance without a note from the notary saying the father was of sound mind when he signed the POA. Notary responds the fact that they notarized the POA shows that he was of sound mind and tell title they won't issue a letter stating this. In lieu of the letter from the notary, title asks for all family members to sign a letter stating they approve of the deal. After a few days of family negotiations title gets the letter.

After a week of give and take, we close escrow on March 13. The son asks to meet with me. It seems that the family likes how I've treated them and conducted myself over the course of the deal and asks if they can re-invest the money they will make from the sale of the home in my next house flip.

Paid $300,000

ARV $540,000 - $595,000

Est. Repair Costs - $100,000

Next Post, The Clean-out and Demo Phase.

Post: Finances for starting out on a flip.

Richard VandenbergPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Long Beach, CA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 9

Andre,

I'm the one in direct contact with the seller. I don't involve the investor with the negotiations because that's my responsibility. As for the investor going around me I wouldn't do business with anyone I didn't trust. 

Hope that helps.