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All Forum Posts by: Ross Yeager

Ross Yeager has started 10 posts and replied 79 times.

Post: My Roofstock Investing Experience

Ross YeagerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Mountain View, CA
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 59

@Jay Hinrichs I came away with a positive experience with Roofstock as I stated.  My biggest negative was just in general a lack of convincing deals, which as you point out is gonna be tough to find without diving in and looking around yourself. Also, wasn't as disappointed on the lack of a counter offer rather than the radio silence past the contract deadline. That has nothing to do with Roofstock of course but specific to my seller. 

@Leo Kotschenreuther for big ticket items, I was taking those in account based on items projected from the inspection, which was about 7.5k over the next 2 years.  So that 7.5k in combination with the $150/month was my expense calculation for the next 2 years... It is probably still an underestimate, but I feel like it is at least ballpark.

Post: My Roofstock Investing Experience

Ross YeagerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Mountain View, CA
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 59
Fair! What are your monthly costs on your Texas property minus the large expenses that are outside of the ordinary?

Post: My Roofstock Investing Experience

Ross YeagerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Mountain View, CA
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 59
And Leo Kotschenreuther in regard to the purchase price, wanted to see what price we would end up at...if I were to do it again I would have countered higher than the appraisal or just not bid on it at all in the first place.

Post: My Roofstock Investing Experience

Ross YeagerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Mountain View, CA
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 59
Leo Kotschenreuther I had the capital expenses shown as the R&M cost (repair and maintenance). I estimated those to be 2% of the purchase price annually.

Post: My Roofstock Investing Experience

Ross YeagerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Mountain View, CA
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 59
Yeah, most of the deals are not great, but mine would have been outstanding. Looking back I probably should have listed a higher counter offer because the numbers would have made sense still and I was planning on holding the property indefinitely. Just need to be very picky with their deals. I’ll probably use them again, though, if I find a good property.

Post: My Roofstock Investing Experience

Ross YeagerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Mountain View, CA
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 59

This was the projected financials on the property (with most numbers actual quotes or numbers from the bank).

Post: My Roofstock Investing Experience

Ross YeagerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Mountain View, CA
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 59

I recently went through the full process of acquiring a property through Roofstock (www.roofstock.com). I haven't seen many reviews out there on them, so I wanted to provide one myself. 

My deal fell through at the last minute (i.e. after getting PM, insurance, loan, and going through the appraisal and inspection contingencies), but I documented the whole process on my blog which can be found here: www.investwithross.com . The blog has the most recent posts listed first, so you'll need to sort through to the end if you want to read through the experience in chronological order.

A summary of my findings can be found below: 

I would recommend Roofstock from a platform and customer service perspective, but it is very very hard to find deals that are worth pursuing. The deal I was engaged in was very good from a cash flow perspective ($400/month with 11-15% cash on cash return depending on what the final numbers would have been), however the seller terminated the contract after I offered the appraised value as a counter offer. 

I have a detailed list of pros and cons in the latest post on the blog, but I'll list some of them here as well:

Pros

  • Great customer service. Both Alexis, Jason, and Zach were very helpful, quick to respond, and generally nice to work with.
  • They are in the Bay Area, which is also where I live/work
  • The process was super easy. They took care of putting together all of the paperwork and keeping track of timelines specified in the PSA. They also scheduled both the inspection and appraisal.
  • They provided recommendations for home insurance, bank loans, and property management. I used their recommended bank and one of their recommended PM companies, but got a better deal with home insurance through the loaning bank. They provided options but you are completely free to shop around and choose your own for any of those categories.
  • The Roofstock marketplace is like any other online shopping, so it is easy to take a look at a lot of properties quickly.

Cons

  • It's really hard to find any deals that are, in my opinion, worth buying. Most of the properties listed on their site are at or above market price and in areas where appreciation will be a very small factor. I've been looking at their site for months now, and only found maybe 2-3 (including the duplex I entered into contract) that would cash flow above 8-9%.
  • There is that strange feeling of conflict of interest with Roofstock being the middle man between both the buyer and the seller. As I mentioned in the blog, there is no sign of this actually occurring, it is just not a typical setup.
  • You never get any direct contact with the seller. I believe this would be a key advantage for me during the negotiation stage as well as just building a positive relationship with the seller to potentially avoid situations like I experienced where the seller went dark for days beyond the expected response date, denied the counter, and terminated the contract.
  • Due diligence on the property is still difficult despite getting inspection reports and pictures. Their reports are fairly detailed but still leave you wanting a bit more, and generally with only a few days to respond after receiving the inspection, there is generally not much that can be done unless there was something super obvious in the report.
  • This negative was specific to my deal, which was a bit tainted due to the final outcome. The seller failed to respond within one of the contract deadlines so we had to extend the timeline. Once the seller finally got back 12 days after my counter offer, he did not counter again and instead terminated the contract. It seemed to me like he may have not been a very motivated buyer. Since I had no contact information or way to get a hold of the seller, it was completely in the hands of Roofstock and I felt a bit helpless through that whole time period. 

Post: Leveraging retirement funds to start investing

Ross YeagerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Mountain View, CA
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 59
Originally posted by @Joe Bertolino:

Rather than borrowing, have you looked into transferring the funds to a self directed IRA?

Thanks for the prompt reply, Joe. If I do that, how does the profit structure work there? For example, if I transfer it into the SD IRA and start renting the purchase out (generating positive cash flow), what am I allowed to do with those profits? I'm guessing they are still part of the IRA and so cannot be used for example on a personal purchase, and that the funds are "tied up" until retirement? I need to educate myself more on the SD IRA, but curious at a high level as to how this would work.

Post: Leveraging retirement funds to start investing

Ross YeagerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Mountain View, CA
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 59

I am 28 with a substantial income through my software engineering day job.  Over the past couple of years, I have accrued a substantial amount of cash in my retirement funds (401k and Roth 401k).  This has made up a majority of my savings (1/3 normal savings, 2/3 retirement funds).  I have been reading about ups/downs of taking out a loan against my retirement fund, and curious as to what the community has to say about this.  In retrospect, with my income stream and entrepreneurial spirit I wish I did not have so much locked up in retirement so that I could be using it to dive into some real estate investment (targeting multi-family duplex).  Any advice here?