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All Forum Posts by: Ron P.

Ron P. has started 4 posts and replied 56 times.

Post: Private Money Loan Doc Software

Ron P.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • CA, CA
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 19

@David Oldenburg 

That's my understanding about usury as well...that a broker is exempt.

This doesn't apply to you because you are a broker but I was making the point that in California you need to have a broker's license if you make 8 or more loans even if it's from you own funds.  Folks sometimes think you can make as many loans as you want from your own funds without a license, that's not true, you need a license if you make 8 or more. 

Post: Private Money Loan Doc Software

Ron P.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • CA, CA
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @David Oldenburg:

Bill, I must correct you! I am by definition a private lender.  I am using my own money, sitting in my checking account, and loaning it privately to individuals who I deem qualified to borrow it.  This is not brokering.  I also work as a regular lender, but I am loaning the money of others when I am wearing that hat.  The two are night and day.  When I am brokering, I have virtually no risk of my own capital and the money is coming from institutional sources. When I loan privately as a private lender, I have complete risk of my capital, I make all decisions and I suffer the consequences or rewards of my actions!  I am also a flipper and wholesaler, and I use my own money as a private investor for those deals.  

I appreciate your insight, but wanted to make it clear to anyone who reads this thread to not be confused and think that a private lender is a broker, because there is a big difference.  I would imagine many of the people here with money are just like me. They are private lenders agreeing to loan their own money, with their own terms, and taking full risk.

If you are lending in California you are considered brokering if you originate 8 or more notes secured by re in a calendar year ... even if it's from your own funds (CA B&P Code 10131.1(C)).  And of course there is the usury issue to deal with when you go over 10%.

Unless you're doing volume, why not just download a note & dot from Fannie/Freddie, it's a .doc file so you can make changes.  Good note software can be $10-$20k.

Post: Cost Basis before being in service

Ron P.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • CA, CA
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Steven Hamilton II:

Nothing for either except for property taxes which may be taken on Schedule A.

 I have a situation similar to Mark's #2 above ... purchased and rehabbed sfr last year and into Jan of 2015 with no renter actually in the property until Jan of 2015 when the rehab was complete, the difference being that I actually received rent in 2014 from a tenant (vacation rental) that didn't actually stay in the property until 2015.  I do cash accounting.  Do I set this up on my tax return as if it was rented in 2014?

Post: Escrow company for note purchases

Ron P.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • CA, CA
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Ron P. 

  you will have to excuse me since its been since 1993 since I have done one. but we did those to ensure new assignee's interest in the exiting DT... from what I know they no longer exist of course I could be way wrong.. And in the notes I do today I just buy a title policy to make sure I am good to go.. I think its just cheap insurance.. I know its not common but that's what I do

 104.1 is still around.  I recently did one.  I sent the assignment of deed of trust to the title company that issued the original policy along with $150, they issued the 104.1 endorsement and recorded the assignment.  That is like a new policy as far as I know.

Post: Escrow company for note purchases

Ron P.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • CA, CA
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Mike Hartzog 

  I guess I am old school... I always get a new policy.. in the day we did 104.1` endorsements.  The reason I for mean is what if there is problems with encumberances that have come up since the recording of the instrument your buying.. I know foreclosure will take care of most issues.. But for me I don't ever want to foreclose if I can humanly help it.

 I thought a 104.1 endorsement took care of subsequent encumbrance problems, what's the point of getting a new policy?

Post: The Recovery is Real

Ron P.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • CA, CA
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Joel A.:

@Ron P. 

Flat is not necessarily a bad thing.  I think the charts do show we are recovered.  Recover doesnt have to mean on its way back up again.

Now that all those bad mortgages arent being handed out to the masses, i dont see why there would be a huge jump in the market.  I mean im no expert or anything but wouldnt you say what caused the bubble to begin with was that all the joe schmoe's who could never get a house were buying houses which in turn leads to that spike.

Who is going to be buying all the houses now?  Just the people that qualify and investors which were the same people purchasing before the spike.

 Agreed!

I'm simply saying the charts don't indicate we are back on the pre-bubble appreciation trend line.

Post: The Recovery is Real

Ron P.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • CA, CA
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Greg Rand:
Originally posted by @Ron P.:

@Greg Rand 

" ... and made it back to the trend line that was established early in the chart."

Looking at those charts, it it appears appreciation didn't make it back to the trend line post correction.  For the most part I see a positive trend line pre-bubble and a flat trend line post-bubble.

 Hi Ron!

I am referring to the trend line established during the boring period from 1996 through the point where it got steep. Some markets have unrealized upside coming their way, like Tampa. BUt in general, the volatility of the boom and bust are more easily understood when in context like this. Volatility is not the normal way. We are back to normal now.

 I'm comparing the boring period from 1996 to roughly 2004 with the period roughly 2010 to present, observing based strictly on the charts that the boring period is a positive slope and the 2010 to present period is a flat slope, indicating to me that we have not " ... made it back to the trend line that was established early in the chart."  I am by no means a market analyst, real estate or otherwise, but I have looked at a lot of charts and to me the appreciation slope pre-bubble looks positive and the post-bubble slope looks flat, for the most part, based on your charts, probably most evident in the Hillsborough County chart, but present in all the charts.

Post: The Recovery is Real

Ron P.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • CA, CA
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 19

@Greg Rand 

" ... and made it back to the trend line that was established early in the chart."

Looking at those charts, it it appears appreciation didn't make it back to the trend line post correction.  For the most part I see a positive trend line pre-bubble and a flat trend line post-bubble.

Post: LLC Tax Forms (K-1, 1065, 8825, etc)

Ron P.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • CA, CA
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Amy E.:

Side Note: Funny you should ask that.  I find doctors to lack basic problem solving skills.  They are frequently unable to tell me how they came to a particular course of action or diagnosis (took me years to find a good one, and lo and behold he has a bachelor's in engineering). 

Okay, back on topic.  I had considered getting an accountant to do it for the first year at least, but worried about finding a good one this late.  I have a friend that does corporate taxes, but am hesitant to mix business/friend relationships.  Tips on finding a qualified tax guy?

 Side note to your side note: Boy, your statement about Dr's not having basic problem solving skills really brought back memories of when I was an engineering student at ucla many years ago.  My (i think) mechanical engineering professor (we had to take core courses in all different engineering disciplines even though I concentrated in electrical) told us a story about how ucla at the time had a program where medical students were able to take and get credit for some engineering classes.  His overall assessment ( he was a prof in the program) was that medical students were very intelligent and good at grinding through the equations but lacked for the most part the ability to setup and formulate the problem at hand.  Wow, I think your statement is right on.  Stick to your guns, do  your own taxes.  Although I have tremendous respect for Steve's advice, I believe us regular folk (me included) are able to do our own taxes, with a little help from our (CPA) friends of course.

Post: Tax Depreciation

Ron P.Posted
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  • CA, CA
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@Jon Holdman 

Bingo!

I think I found the answer to my question in IRS Publication 527.  I basically says what you said that all improvements prior to rent-ready must be capitalized (added to basis), and it goes on to say 'current expenses' and 'carrying charges' can be deducted.

"Adjusted Basis.To figure your property's basis for depreciation, you may have to make certain adjustments (in­creases and decreases) to the basis of the property for events occurring between the time you acquired the property and the time you placed it in service for business or the produc­tion of income. The result of these adjustments to the basis is the adjusted basis."

...

"Increases to basis. You must increase the basis of any property by the cost of all items properly added to a capital account. These in­clude the following.

The cost of any additions or improvements made before placing your property into service as a rental that have a useful life of more than 1 year."

...

"Additions or improvements. Add to the basis of your property the amount an addition or improvement actually cost you, including any amount you borrowed to make the addition or improvement. This includes all direct costs, such as material and labor, but does not include your own labor. It also includes all expenses re­lated to the addition or improvement."

...

"Deducting vs. capitalizing costs. Do not add to your basis costs you can deduct as cur­rent expenses. However, there are certain costs you can choose either to deduct or to capitalize. If you capitalize these costs, include them in your basis. If you deduct them, do not include them in your basis.

The costs you may choose to deduct or cap­italize include carrying charges, such as interest and taxes, that you must pay to own property."