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All Forum Posts by: Ronald Burgess

Ronald Burgess has started 2 posts and replied 12 times.

Post: Verbally agreed on first deal

Ronald BurgessPosted
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  • Philadelphia, PA
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UPDATE

The wheels are in motion, Deal is $10,000 down, $500 a month for 3 years just to pay off the remaining $19,000. Sale price is $29,000, comps sell for mid 40's in the area but he's never put it on the market due to our verbal agreement (he's selling over 40 houses). Current tenant has been there 3 years and is being charged $650, about $100 under market. I don't think I'll raise it due to this being my first rental and I rather have the existing tenant than to look for another. I won't be making any money for the first 3 years but after that it'll become all profit.... Oh yeah as you Can tell from the math, it's 0 APR, he's mortgaging the loan himself to save me on the ridiculous closing cost that would come with such a cheap purchase

Post: Verbally agreed on first deal

Ronald BurgessPosted
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  • Philadelphia, PA
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Originally posted by @Michele Fischer:

Ronald, I don't' remember how many non-occupied loans you can get before credit restricts, and it varies a bit by lender, but it is between four and ten properties.  After that, you have to get creative with financing or show two years of tax returns as a successful landlord to demonstrate experience.  We were so frustrated when we first started that we couldn't get loans easier, even with a great credit score and seed money.  It seems like the purse strings are loosening again, but if you want to build net worth, getting higher mortgages and letting tenants pay them off is a great way to do it.

 Net worth is definitely my goal,  thanks for the knowledge again! 

Post: Verbally agreed on first deal

Ronald BurgessPosted
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  • Philadelphia, PA
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Originally posted by @Michele Fischer:

Ronald, the interest rate is fine on small loans.  The fixed costs like appraisals are the same, so the fees are relatively expensive.  Also, you only get 4 or so loans until you can demonstrate you are a capable owner, so if you burn them up with small properties, you reduce your leveraging capacity.  Just things to be aware of.

 Can you elaborate on the 4 loans until proven capable thing?  Sorry if it's self explanatory! 

Post: Verbally agreed on first deal

Ronald BurgessPosted
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  • Philadelphia, PA
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Originally posted by @Michele Fischer:

Ronald, sounds like you have upside potential on the neighborhood, which I do not have with my low income "empire".  How long has the tenant been there?  If it's over 2 years, that is a great sign.  You grew up in the area, that is good, has it changed much since you've been away?  Do you have a pulse on the people that the neighborhood is desirable to, to make tenant selection easier/better?  I would not buy 2 bedrooms in my area, there are too many of them.  Unless there is something unique or attractive about your property to market.  Small loan properties are a killer.  Do you have the option for a line of credit, family loan, or seller financing?

 The area Is still pretty high on heroin sales but it's vastly improved since 99' when I moved from there. .. why are small loans a killer?  They generally higher in interest rate or something?  Or are you speaking about how hard they are to obtain? Thanks for your input! !

Post: Verbally agreed on first deal

Ronald BurgessPosted
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  • Philadelphia, PA
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I likely wouldn't live there now to be honest, but it's where I grew up. As far as buying more expensive, desirable areas, I would love to but there's a few things I have to worry about. 20% down and vacancy risk being the obvious ones. Also from the numbers I'm crunching ( I could be way off)  it is much tougher to find a cash flowing rental in houses in the 200k+ range.

I appreciate the time and response fellas

Post: Verbally agreed on first deal

Ronald BurgessPosted
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  • Philadelphia, PA
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I've been researching and wanting to start investing for years now but always had an excuse (nerves) not to. I recently agreed verbally on a deal ( pending finding a bank to mortgage such a small loan) with a guy who owns 40 properties and is in the middle of downsizing and selling half of them. The house is in a low income area that I grew up in but is very close to booming neighhborhoods. The deal is for 30k on a 2 bedroom/1 bath/ 648 sqft row home. He offered me two other properties for the same price, 3 bedroom 980 sqft but I think that areas is much further off in terms of gentrification. They're all currently occupied with the other two properties bringing in 700/mo. The house I agreed to verbally is only bringing in 625/mo. 

I don't think the 30k mortgage and 625 rent quite meets the 50/2% rules but it's such a small deal that it can't possibly hurt me and I feel it may build my confidence to take a real risk. Initially I was going to jump in head first and buy a shell for 80k in a 200-250k neighborhood area.

Any tips, reccomendation, criticism is very welcome.

Post: New to BP, from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Ronald BurgessPosted
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  • Philadelphia, PA
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Originally posted by @Garrett M.:

Welcome @Mike DeLeo

You'll find a lot of folks working in Philadelphia on BiggerPockets! There is some discussion of a BP member meet-up on April 4th.  Be sure to set-up a keyword alert for Philadelphia, if you haven't done so already. Good luck to you!

 Key word alert? I'm curious myself of this meet up.

Good luck Garrett, were in the same boat, although college was nearly a decade ago for me hah!

Post: Average ROI on rental properties?

Ronald BurgessPosted
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  • Philadelphia, PA
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I've stumbled upon this after crunching numbers on an APP I just downloaded. If I end up renting my current home out at the average $1050 in this area the ROI calculates to be 16% ( is that solid? ) and my first rental I have verbally agreed upon is calculating at 69%, it is going to be 30k purchase already occupied with tenant paying 625, does this sound accurate? Sorry I'm still learning!

Post: Ready to jump in!

Ronald BurgessPosted
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  • Philadelphia, PA
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Originally posted by @John Matthews:

@Ronald Burgess

Congrats on deciding to actually get started. To your first question, if it were me, I'd move into a new place with an FHA loan, and rent out the place you're living in now, but I don't know what numbers you're talking for your current home.

As for your place in kensington/port richmond, if you can't find a bank that will lend you on less than $50k you need to keep looking. I can refer you to one if you'd like, just PM me.

How have you been evaluating your deals? If you haven't been using it, look up the 50% rule here on BP. It's not going to be spot on, but it's a good place to start in making sure you're successful long term. Essentially don't plan on appreciation, buy a place that's cashflowing, and if it appreciates, that's icing on the cake.

Reach out if you've got any specific questions or need any help!

I can't do FHA, my current home is FHA. I bought in 08' for 125k, and I owe 104..... if values are the same I would be close to 20% equity and could refi to conventional with no pmi then go FHA again but something tells me my house has lost a good bit of value! As for the 50% rule, I need to get familiar with that for sure. And yes please message me some of these banks if you can, my own credit union wouldn't do under 50k

Thanks for the detailed response buddy. 

Post: Ready to jump in!

Ronald BurgessPosted
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  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 12
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Originally posted by @Ryan Fagan:

Welcome to BP @Ronald Burgess

Be careful, all the neighborhoods you listed are in "hot" parts of the city, and there are a lot of "deals" out there pricing in the expected appreciation already.

 Yeah I've noticed that, a lot of houses in point breeze listing for 300 and selling for 200!! Thanks for the advice.