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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 10 posts and replied 24 times.

Post: REO property been vacant for 8 yrs, no inspections allowed

Account ClosedPosted
  • Lake Charles, LA
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 3
Better be cheap!

Post: Should I kick them out?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Lake Charles, LA
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Charlie MacPherson:

@Nancy Roth Just be careful about what you say.  

Even though you don't mean to discriminate, you could have to defend a claim regarding national origin - a federally protected class.

You may be completely innocent, but the cost of defense can be staggering.

 Nothing that an anonymous phonemail to ICE couldn't fix ;)

Post: Is turnkey repair / painting really this expensive?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Lake Charles, LA
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @James Wise:

Those costs are pretty normal. As someone suggested you could likely find someone on Craigslist who will do it on the side for cheaper but there's risk to that as you get what you pay for and we have to believe that everyone will charge as much as the market and their skill set will allow.

So you have to ask yourself why someone is on Craigslist doing work for less than refutible companies? What is holding the person on Craigslist back from competing with everyone else's prices? After all, nobody prefers to make less money so there is a reason this person is unable to charge more. Perhaps they are unreliable, inexperienced, addicted to drugs, running a scam etc....Sometimes you get lucky & find yourself a solid handyman, other times you end up paying your actual PM company to go back and correct the mistakes your handyman made. Sometimes your handyman steals your furnace. I have personally seen it all.

Is the minimal savings really worth the work & risk associated with the search. Maybe, maybe not will depend on your risk tolerance as well as what you value your time vs money.

 Finding workers on Craigslist is probably the biggest headache on earth. Any time I've tried in the past, lets say out of 10 responses, maybe 3 can form a sentence and actually read what work I need done, 1 will show up to actually do the work, and 0.5 will do the work correctly.

Post: How to partner with a contractor?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Lake Charles, LA
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 3

Hi all,

I am seeking help in how to structure deals in partnering with a contractor. I am in the medical field, and my father in law is more or less a contractor who now specializes in speciality carpentry work. He's interested in getting into "flipping houses" and has started discussions with me about partnering up. Basically I'm the money, and he's the construction.

My question is, how have other people who have gone down similar routes structured deals?

I have been researching real estate, and am in analysis paralysis currently, but am anxious to make my first move. I'm interested in buy and hold and rent. I would not be opposed to buy, remodel, rent, then sell a few years later. I think the later is what my father in law is interested in.

So, how does this work with two people? Let's say I put the downpayment down, he contributes his time for free in managing his sub contractors, I pay the subcontractors, then when we rent it, lets say monthly cash flow is $400 after everything is paid. If we split 50/50, that's $200 each. That sucks. He did say he would play role as property manager and "Mr Fix It" when anything breaks at the property(ies.) So that has value.

And lets say it comes time to sell in a few years. I would assume that from the sell I would pay myself every penny I put out in cash, then split the profit 50/50?

It just seems like in this type of situation that I'm the one taking on all the risk. If the flip is a bust, I'm the one who lost tens of thousands of dollars. He may have lost 2 weeks of his time, which also has value. 

When I first was considering getting in this game, I was only thinking of using a contractor on a "pay for service" type arrangement. But I also realize that having a contractor arrange all of this and oversee things has value, because I know how a contractor will say "Bathroom tile? $2000" and then pay the sub $800 and keep $1200 for himself.

Anyways, I was just hoping to hear from anyone who has been down this road. Also, I am aware of "TV math" for flipping and how it's not remotely as profitable as it seems on TV.