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All Forum Posts by: Roger Kuo

Roger Kuo has started 1 posts and replied 9 times.

Originally posted by @Kyle J.:
Originally posted by @Roger Kuo:
Originally posted by @Aaron K.:

You can get name and address from the county website, if you want a possible phone number you'll likely have to pay for skip tracing.

Thanks Aaron. I went to the Orange County Assessor's office website and there wasn't a way to search by address. After calling them, I found that you need to go in person to their office and use the computers there to look it up. They charge .75/search if you want to print it out (though I will probably just take a photo with my phone). Apparently each county decides whether they want to put the records online or not and Orange County has elected not to do so. If you know of an online service that would allow me to do this from home, please let me know.

@Roger Kuo - This isn’t just an issue you’ll run into in Orange County. No county in California provides online access to property owners’ names and addresses. 

The reason is because there’s a law in California that prohibits County Assessor’s Offices from posting the home address of any elected or appointed officials (i.e. members of the legislature, City Attorneys, District Attorneys, Public Defenders, Police Chiefs and Sheriffs, federal judges, etc) on the internet. And since the Assessor’s Offices don’t know who all these people are and the cost to continually try to collect and update that information would be prohibitive, they simply don’t post any property owners info online.

However, the information itself is a matter of public record, so you can always go the County Assessor’s Office in person and view it. Some counties will also allow you to obtain the information by phone and/or email. They just can’t post it online.

If you were going to be doing a lot of “driving for dollars”, that might become somewhat time consuming though. So I’d recommend the service which was previously mentioned called “Property Radar” since you could run as many properties as you want and get the info yourself directly without having to go through the Assessor’s Office. 

Thanks Kyle, I'll start with Property Radar. Driving for dollars isn't a strategy that I planned on but since I love driving (through communities, not in traffic on the 5) it doesn't feel like work at all. I'm glad there are apps that support this.

And thanks for the background on why the county assessor's office can't post information online. That makes more sense to me now.  

Originally posted by @Karen Margrave:

@Roger Kuo before going to Orange County I used to use Parcelquest. I loved that. Now I use Realist which comes with my MLS. I also use Spokeo to help locate owners, etc.

Thanks Karen - Everyone seems to use different tools, good to know there are so many choices.

Originally posted by @Joe Homs:

@Roger Kuo  if you are not a real estate agent it's sometimes difficult to get what you need.  I have access through the title company (First American) and a company called realist.  I don't "drive for dollars" in the biggerpockets sense of the word, because I have found it to be a waste of my time.  Also, what do you say at the front door if you are door knocking?  "Hi, I am an investor and I stopped by this ugly house to see if you are interested in selling?"  Awkward...

I do use a third party app called Property Radar (Not an endorsement). I use this to get my "NOD Notice of Default's" that I do target with calls and knocking of their doors. "Hi, my name is Joe and I stopped by to see if you are interested in selling your home?" "Do you have a few minutes to speak with me.?" I know they are in default from their loan and need to do something sooner rather than later. Why not pick on those that you know are already in trouble? This app provides ALL owner information and sometimes phone numbers as well.

Good investing...

Thanks Joe - I like that Property Radar will give you both the notices and the owner info so will definitely check it out. I was using Zillow to look for pre-foreclosure properties but it would be great to get notified as soon as a property goes into default.

Originally posted by @Brandon Windecker:

Hey @Roger Kuo 

You can just reach out to a title company and ask them to do it.  I sent my title company 13 addresses and they gave me all 13 reports for free and the report tells you if the property is owner occupied and if not, it shows their address.  If you want more information like phone#, email, they charge $0.10 per lead, so really inexpensive.  The one I use is Old Republic Title. 

Hope that helps. 

That's great to know Brandon. $.10/lead is really reasonable, especially for that type of information.

Originally posted by @Karen Margrave:

@Roger Kuo Orange County is one of the only counties that won't allow their records to be accessed without the services providing info compensating them. You just have to get creative.

Thanks Karen - good to know that not all counties are like this. I thought it was a California thing. 

Originally posted by @Jacob Repreza:

Wow I didn't realize Orange county did that till right now. As an agent we can look it up through the MLS. In your case I would recommend trying out deal machine, land glide, or the driving for dollars app. Don't believe they're free( might have free trials) bu they do get owner information so that might be your best shot. If you're going into any other county then yes usually the county website the easiest option.

 Wow Jacob I didn't know there were so many options, let alone an app literally called "driving for dollars". Thanks, I will check them out!

Originally posted by @Jeff Mason:

Try BellesLink. 

You can use reverse address searches to find the property owner and then do a people search to find a phone number, mobile and landline, mailing address, emails, relatives, etc. 

If you develop a list of names and address those can all be searched at one time as a batch. 

Thanks Jeff, I'll check out the site!

Originally posted by @Aaron K.:

You can get name and address from the county website, if you want a possible phone number you'll likely have to pay for skip tracing.

Thanks Aaron. I went to the Orange County Assessor's office website and there wasn't a way to search by address. After calling them, I found that you need to go in person to their office and use the computers there to look it up. They charge .75/search if you want to print it out (though I will probably just take a photo with my phone). Apparently each county decides whether they want to put the records online or not and Orange County has elected not to do so. If you know of an online service that would allow me to do this from home, please let me know.

I'm just starting out and want to invest in specific neighborhoods in Orange County, CA. One of my favorite things to do is driving through the areas to get a feel for living there and while doing so, I've found some homes that have obvious deferred maintenance. After listening to some podcasts, I learned that what I'm doing is basically called Driving for Dollars. Some of these properties are rentals so contacting the owner is not a matter of just dropping a letter in the mailbox. What is the best way online (in California) to find the name and address/contact info of the property owner?