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All Forum Posts by: Robert Damato

Robert Damato has started 10 posts and replied 38 times.

Post: How To: Cash out 1-4 unit Property

Robert DamatoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 14

@Andrew Postell 

Liiiiiight bulllllb!

This all makes sense, thank you for writing this!

Post: Trouble Refinancing Duplex Under An LLC

Robert DamatoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 14
hey Daniel, also thanks for the attention, the loan is in the LLC name 


Originally posted by @Daniel Hyman:

@Robert Damato

Were you able to get the loan in the LLC's name? Or was it your personal name?

Post: Trouble Refinancing Duplex Under An LLC

Robert DamatoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 14
Hey Andrew, thanks for the attention to my post. yeah so the property was purchased cash, no mortgage or loan from a bank the loan I’m working on now is under the LLC and like I said it is 80% of total cash invested, but it doesn’t give me enough cash to really roll into the next deal because the house is now worth double of what I purchased it for 


Originally posted by @Andrew Postell:

@Robert Damato sorry it took me a while to respond here but I need to square some things away:

  1. NEVER EVER purchase an investment property in your personal name.  NEVER.  I don't have time to go into this at length but just trust me on this for now.
  2. There is NO 6 month seasoning if you are refinancing a loan.  Well, maybe I can't speak for every lender here...but if a lender is saying you need to wait 6 months to refinance an existing loan, then you need to find a different lender.
  3. You don't need to "quit claim" anything.  That's not even the right form to use if you are changing ownership here.  You can certainly change title the day you close on the refinance if you need to.  No need to do anything ahead of time.

Now having said all of that, how you PURCHASE your property has a lot to do with what the right procedure is to get your money back.

  • Did you buy this money with cash or with a loan?

If you could answer that question that will allow me to provide clear instructions on what to do next. Thanks!

    Post: Trouble Refinancing Duplex Under An LLC

    Robert DamatoPosted
    • Rental Property Investor
    • Milwaukee, WI
    • Posts 42
    • Votes 14

    @Kase Knochenhauer that makes a lot of sense, I was about to quit claim the house into my personal name just so I could get a good loan, but to do that before makes way more sense, thanks a lot man!

    Post: Trouble Refinancing Duplex Under An LLC

    Robert DamatoPosted
    • Rental Property Investor
    • Milwaukee, WI
    • Posts 42
    • Votes 14
    man I must have called 15 banks and sat down with 4 bankers, no one would do a HELOC or a standard refi on a “commercial loan” (owned under LLC) due to it being a non occupied rental, two unit, and because the llc has only been created for a year





    Originally posted by @Edy Lagares:

    How many lenders have you tried to refinance with?

    If you have exhausted all your options a 4.5% is not bad I think, you can pay your original investor and you own the property. Can you take out a HELOC after? I guess that depends on how much equity is left after you take out this refi.

    I think on the Next one you might have to set up the refinance before you start the process so you know exactly what your refinance is gonna look like.

    I hope it all works out for you.

    Post: Trouble Refinancing Duplex Under An LLC

    Robert DamatoPosted
    • Rental Property Investor
    • Milwaukee, WI
    • Posts 42
    • Votes 14

    So I just finished rehabbing my duplex and have tenants in the property. For the most part, the rehab went pretty smooth, can't complain. They house is owned Under an LLC where I am the only owner.
    This was intended to be a classic BRRRR deal but now that I am at the end of the train I had a lot of trouble finding someone to refinance the house 70% LTV or even close at a reasonable rate. The only thing I could find for this was a commercial loan officer that is writing me a loan for 80% of the total cash I have invested into it, at 4.5% APR.

    Luckily I put a lot of money into the rehab myself so the loan is enough to cash out my investor.

    My Questions are this.

    How do investors structure the ownership of houses in order to have a smooth refinance process at the end.

    How are they able to repeat this process and scale without killing your debt to income ratio, and affect your rates. 

    Thanks for your time,

    Cheers

    Post: New Investor Rental Property

    Robert DamatoPosted
    • Rental Property Investor
    • Milwaukee, WI
    • Posts 42
    • Votes 14

    Hey David, welcome to BP. It all depends on what you are shooting for when it comes to cashflow, if you are looking for 1000 a month in cashflow then no it will not work but if you are shooting for 500 a month in cashflow then that may very well be a opportunity for you since it is essentially turnkey. Just remember not to juice your numbers up, run your numbers at worst case scenario and see if you can still make money. Also make sure they didn’t half *** the flip and cause you to have problems down the road. Hope you can get your first deal in the bag. Good luck 

    Post: HOW DO YOU ESTIMATE AN ARV IF THERE ARE NO COMPARABLE PROPERTIES?

    Robert DamatoPosted
    • Rental Property Investor
    • Milwaukee, WI
    • Posts 42
    • Votes 14
    Originally posted by @Aaron K.:

    Assuming this is for personal use and not an appraisal, I'd probably do a variation on determining value from income.  If a triplex, or duplex has a cap rate of x in that area work backwards to determine the value.

    Thanks Aaron,

    Yeah it is for personal use, I'm just looking for some fundamentals in order to find the ARV to this property, I just threw the numbers in there to give some background on what I'm working with. Thank you for your response

    Post: HOW DO YOU ESTIMATE AN ARV IF THERE ARE NO COMPARABLE PROPERTIES?

    Robert DamatoPosted
    • Rental Property Investor
    • Milwaukee, WI
    • Posts 42
    • Votes 14

    Hello BP, how are we doing?? I am looking to see If anyone has any pointers on finding an ARV on a property if there are no similar comps in the area. For example, I am looking at a 3 row townhome on a isolated lot amongst primarily single family homes with a couple duplexes here and there, and I can not find a single other building like it in the area. The only source I have to go off of for its value is 314k and that is off of the city assessors website and they are asking 534k. It needs about 15 to 20k of renovations per unit I think 534 is high, so I am trying to find a number that is not going to put me over the value of the property after the value is added.

    looking forward to what yall have to say,

    cheers!

    Post: Dropping out of college

    Robert DamatoPosted
    • Rental Property Investor
    • Milwaukee, WI
    • Posts 42
    • Votes 14

    How's it going Jaden, I would say that if you are really passionate about real estate and dedicated to success then definitely follow your passion. Even if you have a job where you are making 15/20 dollars an hour while you are studying real estate and NOT racking up more debt from the business (college) you are going to, that is more progressive than going to school for something that you are not passionate or even interested in because its "going to make you a lot of money". Take note that even though you may be making say 80k a year and you have 100k in student loans, at a national average of 5.8% interest rate(nerdwallet.com) you will have a 705 dollar payment for the next 20 years, on top of your rent or mortgage, car payment etc... So I tell people "make sure you really... like really want AND NEED to go to college before you take on that loan for your education. Talking about me personally I did go to 1 year of college and just did general education classes that were required by the college in order for you to start your degrees program. I thought I wanted to do civil engineering but was not completely set on it. after the 1st year I decided to take a year off and figure out what I wanted to do. Then I found Bigger pockets... needless to say I never went back and I now have my first duplex via the BRRRR method. My investor already told me he wants to partner again so I will be rolling all that money into the next deal and so on and so fourth. I am by no means a highly successful investor but I am on my way, and that would have never happened If I had not "dropped out of college". I am also 22 years old so pretty close in age. hope this helps man, cheers.