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All Forum Posts by: Robert Baker

Robert Baker has started 1 posts and replied 4 times.

Post: tax deductions of worker who are not licensed contractors

Robert BakerPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Hagerstown, MD
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by @Steven Hamilton II:
Originally posted by @Linda Weygant:
Originally posted by @Beth L.:

You have them each fill out a W-9 and have them invoice you for the work performed. It would be wise to pay them by check so you have record of payment. Then you give them each a 1099 for payments made in that year. It doesn't matter if they are licenced or not, it is only to report money paid to someone else for services in the course of business. In turn, those paid will have to report it on their taxes and pay taxes on the income.

You still have time to do this for tax year 2015, as the 1099s are not due to be postmarked until January 31.

* Disclaimer: I am not a CPA or tax consultant. You should of course consult your CPA for all tax questions. 

 Beth may not be a CPA or a tax consultant, but she has states this accurately and concisely.  This is the exact procedure you should follow.

 I agree they both SHOULD receive 1099s; however, it is technically not required for landlords to issue 1099s.

If I deduct what was paid to the workers to get the properties rent ready, if I claim I paid then 50k over the course of the year. As an LLC wouldn't it be required , not so much from the landlord stand point

Post: tax deductions of worker who are not licensed contractors

Robert BakerPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Hagerstown, MD
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by @Beth L.:

You have them each fill out a W-9 and have them invoice you for the work performed. It would be wise to pay them by check so you have record of payment. Then you give them each a 1099 for payments made in that year. It doesn't matter if they are licenced or not, it is only to report money paid to someone else for services in the course of business. In turn, those paid will have to report it on their taxes and pay taxes on the income.

You still have time to do this for tax year 2015, as the 1099s are not due to be postmarked until January 31.

* Disclaimer: I am not a CPA or tax consultant. You should of course consult your CPA for all tax questions. 

Thank you Beth for the helpful information  

Post: tax deductions of worker who are not licensed contractors

Robert BakerPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Hagerstown, MD
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by @Mike F.:

You're paying them cash for a reason right? To avoid payroll taxes and insurance?

Maybe you're not realizing it but you'd be documenting your illegal activity if you record it for a deduction? This move would be similar to a drug dealer taking a deduction on his taxes for the meth he bought wholesale from his source.

Keep in mind per Beth's advice, about 1099ing them,  the reason for 1099's is for the IRS to have a paper trail to follow the money back to the source to see if there are further taxes due to a miss-classified sub-contractor which is what the boys are. 

The chances of you being caught when you're paying them just cash would be much less so than if you actually reported what you are doing to the IRS would it?

 I'm not telling them how to do their jobs in any compactly. I am telling them what needs done and how I want the finished product to be color , layout etc... I am not overseeing their work in the same manner a boss would to workers. I am trying to avoid payroll, insurance and the other things that come along with it but once again I am not on location during the day when they are work to observe their work .they are not doing anything that would require a license such as plumbing or electrical

Post: tax deductions of worker who are not licensed contractors

Robert BakerPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Hagerstown, MD
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 0

i have an LLC and i purchase about 8 rental properties per year. 2015 was my fist year in business. I originally did the majority of work on the properties my self in the evening and weekends as i have a regular full time job about 50 hours per week getting off around 5 pm monday-friday. To try and turn properties faster i have been paying my son $12 an hour cash and allowed him to bring in one friend who is working for $10 an hour cash. The current property is the first one i have done this on and the billing hours is around 400 for this project. My question is how can i write off this $4000+ expense, i read on this site 1099. is that accurate. I would like to continue using them without them falling under the employee umbrella. We are located in the state of Maryland.