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All Forum Posts by: Richard W.

Richard W. has started 3 posts and replied 9 times.

Post: Cost estimator pricing & recommendations - townhomes

Richard W.Posted
  • Developer
  • Texas
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2

Victor - thanks. I found somebody already (NB. additional quotes ranged from $1500 to $3500).

Quote from @Jonathan Orr:

I would think it would depend what state the plans are in.  If they are 100% done and approved, that seems high to me.  for 75% completed plans for a industrial project I was quoted around 2-3k for a budget, this was for a 65k sq ft industrial center.

I found estimators on a website called upwork.  I ended up just going to the GC I was going to hire and they assisted me with a bid/budget.

My question is why don't you go to the GC that you intend to have build it and get them to provide you with a budget?  

Hope this helps


Jonathan - thanks very much, very helpful. As it happens I did end up going to upwork, and quotes there ranged from $1k to $3.5k, so you were right that $4k was high! I'm using the estimator numbers to check all the sub pricing from my GC, i.e. to work out if I need to have him go and get more bids from subs for particular trades (or negotiate his preferred guys down). 

In terms of paying my GC, I'm hoping he'll be okay with 12-13% profit on hard costs (with no additional overhead). I'm told by others this might be on the low side, with some GCs wanting 10% profit and 10% overhead. What would you think is reasonable? We may operate this as a cost-plus contract, trying to lock down as many of the sub's prices upfront, but knowing any justifiable increases will be passed on to me. Would that seem reasonable?

Post: MTRs in Texas - locations for new construction units

Richard W.Posted
  • Developer
  • Texas
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2
Quote from @Taj Akinbode:
Quote from @Richard W.:

I'm a small scale developer of new construction units in Texas (so far duplexes in Dallas and a 5-unit townhome project in Houston). Rather than always sell when complete I'd like to keep some units as MTRs. I like building in areas with greater appreciation potential (hence lower cashflow), and don't want to make the time commitment to manage STRs. Hence MTRs may fit well.

I'd be open to building anywhere in Texas, although Dallas and Houston are obviously easier. Any advice on specific locations and/or a methodology for narrowing down the locations would be much appreciated!


If you are looking to capitalize on the growth of the healthcare industry in Houston and the explosion of travel nurses as well as capture the lucrative income potential that can be generated from medium term medical patients from across the world, medical field students in residence etc, Look no further than the Texas Medical Center, a bustling 2.1-square-mile residential and medical district located in the heart of the city. With over $5 billion in healthcare-related projects underway and projections of healthcare jobs to double in the next decade, the Texas Medical Center is the perfect place to make a smart investment.

Not only is the medical center the world’s largest medical complex, with over 60 institutions, 106,000 employees, and 10 million patients each year, it is also surrounded by some of Houston’s most desirable neighborhoods and suburbs, offering a great location with top schools and easy access to and from the district.

If you're interested in building in the communities surrounding this thriving area, I'd love to connect with you and provide more information. I can also share with you other areas of Houston with huge potential. Feel free to use the link in my signature below to schedule a time on my calendar. I'd love to connect and provide value.


 Taj - thanks very much. I'm already developing in 77003 so somewhat familiar with the Texas Medical Center. I'd not realized just how much it is expected to grow. The only thing that surprised me was that Houston wasn't higher up the list of destinations for travel nurses (according to furnished finder). Being the 4th or 5th biggest metro with a large medical center I'd have expected it to be in the top 10 places in the US. Maybe travel nurses aren't relied upon as much in Houston vs other metros. The list:

According to Furnished Finder, here are the top 50 cities where traveling nurses work.

First, we’ll start with the top 10 cities where travel nurses need housing:

  1. San Diego
  2. Seattle
  3. Denver
  4. Phoenix
  5. Boston
  6. Los Angeles
  7. Nashville
  8. Atlanta
  9. San Francisco
  10. Portland

Here are the other most popular travel nurse cities to round out the top 50.

  1. Albuquerque
  2. Austin
  3. Las Vegas
  4. Saint Louis
  5. New Orleans
  6. Tucson
  7. Tacoma
  8. San Jose
  9. Reno
  10. Portland
  11. San Antonio
  12. Miami
  13. Charleston
  14. Houston
  15. Washington
  16. Sacramento
  17. Orlando
  18. Honolulu
  19. Tampa
  20. Baltimore
  21. Charlotte
  22. Asheville
  23. Chicago
  24. Burlington
  25. Dallas
  26. Oakland
  27. Palo Alto
  28. Saint Petersburg
  29. Colorado Springs
  30. Anchorage
  31. Fort Myers
  32. Santa Rosa
  33. Charlottesville
  34. New York, NY
  35. Scottsdale
  36. Fresno
  37. Savannah
  38. Boise
  39. New Haven
  40. Jacksonville

Post: MTRs in Texas - locations for new construction units

Richard W.Posted
  • Developer
  • Texas
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2
Quote from @Eliott Elias:

I35 corridor headed to Killeen from Austin. You all can read this in 10 years. 


 Think this makes a lot of sense. I'll add it to my list and start taking a look.

Post: MTRs in Texas - locations for new construction units

Richard W.Posted
  • Developer
  • Texas
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2
Quote from @Bruce Lynn:

Lots of demand drivers in West Dallas.....one of the largest medical centers in the country is #1 transplant patients, long term medical care patients, residents, fellows, drs training in different disciplines like those at Scottish Rite......downtown Dallas #2....#American Airlines Center #3, potential for Las Vegas Sands Casino somewhere near by, #4 Dallas Convention Center  #5 Dallas Trade Centers can't think of many other places in the country that have that many demand drivers.

Weatherford.....growth moving that way.  One of the hottest areas of the country....between Ft. Worth and Weatherford.


Bruce - thanks very much, all very helpful info. I wasn't aware of Scottish Rite or the potential casino. It will be very interesting to see if the law can be changed to approve a casino in Dallas!

Weatherford and Ft Worth are both interesting to me. Do you do much work there? I'm particularly interested to know how strict the zoning is there and how competitive finding lots to either build duplex or townhomes is there. I've found Dallas to be far more restrictive than Houston, also with more risk around getting approval for replats in Dallas.

Post: MTRs in Texas - locations for new construction units

Richard W.Posted
  • Developer
  • Texas
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2

Thanks Bruce. I could see downtown Fort Worth making sense. Visiting professors apparently can be good tenants for MTRs. 

Why do you recommend West Dallas and Weatherford? I know there's lots of new construction in West Dallas, and its clearly central, to that may be enough.

I'm not familiar with Weatherford

Post: MTRs in Texas - locations for new construction units

Richard W.Posted
  • Developer
  • Texas
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2

I'm a small scale developer of new construction units in Texas (so far duplexes in Dallas and a 5-unit townhome project in Houston). Rather than always sell when complete I'd like to keep some units as MTRs. I like building in areas with greater appreciation potential (hence lower cashflow), and don't want to make the time commitment to manage STRs. Hence MTRs may fit well.

I'd be open to building anywhere in Texas, although Dallas and Houston are obviously easier. Any advice on specific locations and/or a methodology for narrowing down the locations would be much appreciated!

I'm building (as developer, hiring a GC) five townhomes in Houston. Until now I've been building duplexes in Dallas. I have a decent set of cost data from those builds, but all the material and labor cost inflation/volatility of the last two years make it an imperfect calculation for price checking my GC's latest bid for the townhomes. Rather than ask another GC to bid (knowing that I will almost certainly not use them), I'm instead looking to pay for a professional building cost estimator. Two questions:

1) One cost estimator has proposed a $4k fee to do this work. Seems higher than I was expecting. Do people agree?

2) Do you have any recommendations for other cost estimators I could ask?

Thanks in advance for the help

Post: Cost estimator pricing & recommendations - townhomes

Richard W.Posted
  • Developer
  • Texas
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2

I'm building (as developer, hiring a GC) five townhomes in Houston. Until now I've been building duplexes in Dallas. I have a decent set of cost data from those builds, but all the material and labor cost inflation/volatility of the last two years make it an imperfect calculation for price checking my GC's latest bid for the townhomes. Rather than ask another GC to bid (knowing that I will almost certainly not use them), I'm instead looking to pay for a professional building cost estimator. Two questions:

1) One cost estimator has proposed a $4k fee to do this work. Seems higher than I was expecting. Do people agree?

2) Do you have any recommendations for other cost estimators I could ask?

Thanks in advance for the help