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All Forum Posts by: Richard Mur

Richard Mur has started 2 posts and replied 4 times.

Hey all. So I'm going through the process in picking the right brokerage for me. Before you jump on me to check the megathread, I think my question is a little more detailed than I've researched.

Yesterday, I was able to pull up the National Business Review with my Metro for 2019 top 100 agents, top residential teams, and top Brokerage rankings by revenue money. There were 31 brokerages listed and I emailed out a detailed message comprising of 5 top questions I needed from them as a brand new agent. I've received 14 emails back from brokerages so far and while I don't feel overwhelmed with breaking this all down, I do realize I'm new and don't want to be possibly sold snakeskin oil. Some of those 14 I have not gotten info from as they requested to have a chat sometime.

I'm listing bullet points on their sell points to me and was wondering if y'all can possibly point out "This is a trap, avoid" moments AND "This is great, this firm seems great, go interview with them".

Brokerage A:

- 80/20 Split up to $10,000,000 (within the annual sales cycle) and then escalates to 90/10 for residential transactions and 80/20 up to $20,000,000 (within the annual sales cycle) and then escalates to 90/10 for commercial transactions.

- $50.00/transaction to supplement errors and omissions insurance

- Provides leads on round robin system via Realtor.com. Cost is $100.00/month.

- Most agents that elect lead generation are too busy after 6-7 months and ask to be taken off of it

- Currently have 22 active listings, 14 pending listings, and have sold over 110 properties in the last 180 days (even with Covid-19)

- New agents average their first close within 2-3 months (with a sales cycle of 30 days/transaction), cites because of training they receive

Brokerage B:

- Principal; is a licensed real estate educator, only teaches education to own realtors at company. Full time educator that runs her other real estate school

- Brokerage has own app where we store training videos and guest speakers from our events

- Mentoring program for new agents to shadow experienced agent

- Brokerage creates template personal site for me

- 2 education classes/month via Zoom

- 1 Sales meeting/month for education & motivation

- 1 meeting/month on technology use, a staff member that deals with IT needs

- 70/30 Split

- $355 Annual Office desk due

- 2% Transaction fee

- No lead production, produce own leads, repeat & referral

- 223 current & pending listings

- Have had new agents close 20 homes in first year and other only 6 homes; varies

Brokerage C:

- This is Keller Williams, so probably pretty standard and y'all are familiar with them, I'm sure

- Within my region: Own 12% of all inventory; 600 to 900 active listings and closed just under 3,500 homes last year

Brokerage D:

- 21 agents in local office

- Momentum Program for training

- 95% commission paid on a transaction, fees included but you choose how much you want to spend (private office/shared office/WFH office,

- Brokerage does not provide leads but can obtain leads from sister brokerage, no cost

- Currently 82 listings, 50 active, states it is currently a seller's market

- Goal is to sell at least $2,000,000 per year

- Average sale price for last 90 days (8 properties) is $260,400

Brokerage E:

- Training videos available

- Weekly sales meetings

- Ninja sales training 2-3/month with Q/A's

- Offer a one-on-one mentorship program for new agents

- Mentor and I would split commission 50/50 first couple of transactions or when I'm ready to go solo

- Lesser degree mentorship for 75/25 commission

- $46.50/month Brokerage fees Plus $25/month on E's&O's

- Own website on brokerage webpage for $10/month

- 70/30 Commission split; 95/5 for sale milestones

- Once you pass $5M in sales, you're still on 70/30 split until you pay out brokerage $20,000, which in turn split becomes 95/5

- 3% broker fee each transaction with $3,000 cap

- Can provide leads by signing and paying up for different things (ICC/OPCity/Buyside)

- 255 active listings

Brokerage F:

- Extensive 6 week onboarding process for training

- No monthly fees; biz cards/signs/lockboxes/marketing all paid for

- Provides leads

- 2 CRMs that hold database of your clients

- Usually 100 listings at any given time, lower now because of Covid

- Minimal standard to remain with company is 24/year. Some agents do 90, average is 36-50.

Originally posted by @Eudith Vacio:

Hi @Richard Mur. It's important to have a solid understanding of your goals and wants in life. Most of us live our life in comfort and then look back and regret not taking any action and fulfilling their dreams. If you can plan your way into real estate, then I would do it. It is a viable option, just keep in mind that it takes patience as an agent, and even as investor as you have to sort through all the deals. Money will only take you so far, they say after $90k, there is no incremental happiness. Keep learning and growing! Best of luck!

Thanks for the wise words of wisdom! 

Yes, I want a job that gives me more control in every day business, even if it is more volatile. I've been planning ahead the past few months. I'm somebody who is definitely a planner and is always thinking 5 steps ahead and contingency plans. The promotion at my current job hit me by surprise which made me post this topic. I've been pretty gung ho on starting my new career, however, this promotion gave me a little pause. 

I still think about leaving San Francisco and starting my Real Estate career everyday. You know how people say "Sleep on it, and see how you feel about it tomorrow"? Well, I've slept on it for 4 months now and the fire is still burning in me! 

Originally posted by @Arlen Chou:

@Richard Mur is your plan in real estate to be an agent or actually to invest in properties? It sounds like you have a strong W2. Contrary to popular belief freeing yourself of a job is not always optimal, especially at the beginning of your real estate journey. You will need the W2 to get loans. Talk to anybody who quit their job first and then tried to get a loan from a bank... it is nearly impossible. You are young and single making good money in the Bay Area. Without knowing your reason for wanting to leave CA, I would recommend you hold your W2 as long as you can and get the grind and hustle going. You can still get your license out of state and invest in that city you eventually want to land in. Find deals during your week, and set up tours for yourself on the weekends. IF you want to trade your tech job to be an agent that actually works with clients on the sell/buy my suggestion probably will not work. You need to be in the market to build up a client base and a reputation.

Good luck!

Thank you! 

I am in the process of becoming a Real Estate Agent. Property investment is something I may look into in the future as I get my experience under my belt. I will be sitting in the state exam in a month or two. 

Basically, everyone I work with in my current job works somewhere else in the country. I've thought about keeping the job and working remote but at the same time, doing real estate part time as a newbie probably isn't the best route. 

I make decent money for San Francisco, my new pay will be $92K. I'd be moving to a place with a much cheaper (but rapidly growing) cost of living. II have $45K saved up so I can do something in regards to invest in myself and grow my Real Estate career. I understand it'll take time. 

As I am waiting to be cleared for the state exam, I've been growing my Instagram account. I have 500 legit followers from the area I'd be selling in. 

Today I was promoted/given raise of 19% during annual review. I had not been promoted in nearly 3 years and had been getting 4-5% raises in my review each year. It's big news and I'm certainly grateful.

Prior to all this a few months back, however, I had done a lot of introspection on where I am in life and what I want. Aside from college, I've lived in the Bay Area my entire life. I'm 31 M, single. I wanted to adventure and experience "newness". I also wanted to "work for my money" more and have more control in my day to day job as I currently work operations. I decided I wanted out of tech. My current company was also spun off and purchased by a competitor last week. We laid off 200 people 4 weeks ago to prepare for this layoff and we have no idea what this new company will do with us yet. Everyone on my team has been laid off except me and my boss, so we'll be re-hiring and planning on getting leaned on quite a bit. Right now, my promotion is set to kick in late March.

In October, I began my new vision in Real Estate. Not only would I be changing careers, I'd be leaving California and traveling halfway across the country. I did a lot of research and found an area I like while also providing large potential for future economic growth, along with social things that align with my hobbies. I visited the area for a weekend in October on my own and I fell in love with it. This is where I want to settle down, marry, have kids, own and flip homes.

At this point, I'm set on leaving and ready to take the steps to being a Licensed Real Estate Agent and move. I mow through my RE class hours, working my tech job by day and Online RE classes by night. I pass my School exam and submit all the applications to take the state exam. I've just received acceptance to take the Real Estate Exam in my new state and have booked a flight out to take this exam in 4 weeks.

What do I do? Just let it all play out? Request to work remote with my current job and do real estate in my new state part time, for now? Quit my job and do Real Estate full time?
I want to succeed in Real Estate and I know I need to invest a lot of time in learning and succeeding in this industry.