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All Forum Posts by: Reggie Greene

Reggie Greene has started 1 posts and replied 15 times.

Post: Appraisal Process for Selling Property

Reggie Greene
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  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Michael Noto:

The price doesn't HAVE to be lowered in this case. The buyer could bring the additional cash needed to bridge the gap to close, you could split it somehow, or you could lower your price. My guess is you are dealing with a FHA buyer and you probably signed an amendatory clause and this is where your agents confusion comes in.

Or maybe they aren't confused at all and know that the path of least resistance for them is for you to bring the extra cash to closing so they do not have to have an uncomfortable conversation with the buyers side. 

Michael,

Yes, I chose the path of least resistance THIS TIME and accepted the amended price.  Thanks to posting this situation, Im now ready to deal with more situations like this much better than before.

Post: Appraisal Process for Selling Property

Reggie Greene
Posted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Tenzin Gyaltsen:

@Reggie Greene

Hey Reggie,

As an agent and a flipper here in Denver Colorado I deal with the appraisal process all the time. Things here in Denver seem to be fairly lax as the prices seem to be increasing continuously (however, not as fast as they were over the course of the last few years, but still rising). I'm not saying Appraisers aren't doing their jobs, just saying values are easier to find. That being said we're always worried about the appraisal and proving the top of your ARV. When I am having one of my properties appraised or having an appraisal for one of my clients I always put together an Appraiser Packet. I leave a hard copy of this packet and send them a PDF as well. This packet contains the following:

1. A letter to the appraiser talking about how many offers there were and the details of the offers (in a multiple offer situation, the neighborhood, the attributes of the house that you may not see if you’re just looking at it (i.e new sewer line, new water line, etc.) and some notes on the comparables

2. Subject property information (listing sheet)

3. Detailed Improvement List (arguably the most important. An appraiser can guesstimate what you put into it but how great is it if they had a to-the-penny budget?!)

4. Comparable property one sheeters of active, under contract, and sold properties. Sold being the most important as those are closed.

As for your questions: You don’t have to sell your property at any price that you don’t want to however, one of two things has to happen in order to sell it to these buyers:

1. Drop the price to the appraised value

2. Buyers gap appraisal

People who are borrowing money to pay for a house will not be able to get a loan for more than the property is “worth”. It’s worth to the lender is based on the 3rd party opinion of the appraiser. You can do a few things in this scenario:

1. You can have your agent dispute the appraisal and ask if they can send over comps to help prove your price if you believe it is being undervalued. You should double check your ARV and make sure that it was correct also. Obviously there's no point in doing this if you are for sure overpriced. This may be a conversation you want to have with your agent, especially if they gave you incorrect information to begin with.

2. You can terminate the contract and put it back on the market and hope that another appraiser has a different opinion. The argument here is that you’ll lose time and money if the same thing happens again and you end up selling at the same price 3 weeks later. Even worse, it comes in lower...

3. This is an odd one but everything is negotiable so.... you can ask the buyers to gap the appraisal... meaning come out of pocket what ever the difference is between the contracted price and the appraisal. I don’t suggest going this route, it’s unlikely that they’ll say yes and it’s not necessarily reasonable.

To me confidence in your ARV is everything and I want to be able to prove my point relatively easily. Using the above process I've seen some really great results on properties that honestly may not have appraised without it!

Hopefully this was helpful in some way!

Tenzin,

Your process is definitely the PROVEN Blueprint Armor to battle against drive-by Appraisers.  I opted NOT to disrupt the process and take this as a somewhat Learning lesson.  I will definitely make sure to have my Real Estate Agents do the same/similar process as you described.  Thanks for sharing your process as I believe this will prove to be an invaluable weapon in the Near Future!

This is MORE than helpful.

Appreciations!

Post: Appraisal Process for Selling Property

Reggie Greene
Posted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 3

@Steve Morris

Thanks for the honest feedback, Steve, at this point, I'm taking a $20k financial haircut. Now, based on the information from you and others, my options are not in my favor. I dont know why Lenders take Appraisers review as the end all be all when it comes to pricing?

I will get over it, but this seems shady to me.

Post: Appraisal Process for Selling Property

Reggie Greene
Posted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 3

@Tawanda Thomas

Thanks for your input as well, Tawanda, I hope this is not a trend that happens for Fix n Flip investors??? If so, what can we do to change this? Why does a Drive by appraiser have Control over our profits with so little information in these situations?

Post: Appraisal Process for Selling Property

Reggie Greene
Posted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 3

@Colin Reid

That's it, its the Relationship from Appraiser to the Lender. I just spoke to another agent and addressed the same issue with "drive-by" Appraisers and some will work with the agent and some wont. Appreciate your input!

Post: Appraisal Process for Selling Property

Reggie Greene
Posted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 3

During the process of selling a Fix-n-Flip, the appraisal came in lower than my Listing price. My agent said that the price HAS to be lowered due to the appraisal. The appraisal was lower than expected upon my purchase and lowered based on trying to sell. I didn't know it would dictate my selling price. Is this normal? Can anything be done to keep me from offering the property at a lower price?

Post: Putting Rentals In Trust

Reggie Greene
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  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 3

@Scott Smith

I meant to ask: Do you Know the approximate cost?? Typos...

Post: Putting Rentals In Trust

Reggie Greene
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  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 3

@Scott Smith

Do you the approximate cost of this?

Post: Are the seminars valuable or scams?

Reggie Greene
Posted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 3
@Stephanie Potter Great advice, Stephanie....the true value of RE investing is meeting with Local groups in your area.

Post: 54 showings, no offers...

Reggie Greene
Posted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 3
@Aaron Hoak Greetings Aaron, from what I can see from the video, the rehab looks great, however, maybe your buyers are looking for more of an open concept on the 1st floor which means more walls would need to be knocked down. In addition, that would have allowed you to expand the kitchen which is a Highly attractive feature for active buyers. Having a big kitchen, with a Big island is always a Great selling feature. Or you can look into other options of holding it (rentals, Airbnb), til the right buyer makes the right offer for you. Im sure you will eventually come out on top. Please keep us posted.