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All Forum Posts by: Rea Cooper

Rea Cooper has started 2 posts and replied 11 times.

Post: Buy SFH now or wait for MFH

Rea CooperPosted
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Quote from @Drake Shadwell:

Hey Rea,

One thing I'm a little confused on with your post is that you mentioned the SFR would be a house hack. I just want to make sure I understand correctly - Would this house hack be getting you out of currently renting or have you just already owned another property for a year so you can now purchase again with a loan for primary residence?

If you're currently renting and purchasing a property would allow you to avoid getting on a lease - I would say you definitely want to make a move now rather than later. Nathan makes a great point about values possibly dropping over the next 6 - 12 months, but depending on how much you're currently putting towards rent it might still be advantageous to secure a SFR to avoid rental costs. If you lose $20,000 in market value on your home in 10 months, that is still better than losing $20,000 in rent over 10 months. At least one of those you have the chance of getting back in a more favorable market!


 Hi Drake, thanks for the reply. I currently live with my family and pay rent (though very little compared to the market rent). And that is a good point in regards to paying mortgage being like paying rent. I always thought if I was not making enough (from renters) to at least cover mortgage, it was a bad deal but I like your approach and will use it to evaluate so thanks for the advice!

Post: Buy SFH now or wait for MFH

Rea CooperPosted
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Quote from @Nate Sanow:

Tomorrow is never guaranteed, I don’t think Sfr is a bad place to start.


 Hi Nate, thanks for the reply and for the advice!

Post: Buy SFH now or wait for MFH

Rea CooperPosted
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Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Rea Cooper:

I would start by considering the market. Prices are dropping. They are likely to continue dropping for the next 6-12 months before stabilizing. How would you feel if you bought a house today and in one year it is worth 10% less? If you plan to hold it long-term, it may not matter. A house that cashflows today would still cashflow if it loses equity. The bigger concern is that you may be able to afford more if you wait 6-12 months because you have more time to save/learn and prices will come down. If you wait six months and property values are 10% cheaper, you'll feel smart for having waited. If prices are still the same as today, at least you'll know you didn't make a mistake and you'll have saved more and learned more. I see it as a win-win.

If you don't have any investors in your circle, it's time to get a new circle! Go to NETWORK at the top of your screen and you can search for other investors and investment groups in your area. You can also check meetup.com or search facebook for real estate investment groups, clubs, or meetings in your area.

 Hi Nathan, thanks for the reply! Yes, i am looking to hold for the next 2-3 years, I plan to buy one property each of the next 3 years then start selling them to buy bigger. To your point about housing prices dropping, what if i can negotiate a deal where the price of the house is dropped ~5-10% (do not know how likely this would be)? I have a great loan product where i can put 0% down so as long as i find renters, I am not too worried about appreciation swaying a little. Is my thinking on this the right approach?

Also, thanks for the advice on network tab. I surprisingly never knew about it but you can bet I will be using it now!

Post: Buy SFH now or wait for MFH

Rea CooperPosted
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Quote from @Kevin Maurer:

Hi Rea- I agree with Brandon that getting started sooner rather than later is smart. I'm also from Raleigh and looking to do something similar.

Have you looked into a HomeStyle/203k loan by any chance? Under this type of loan you can put down the same or similar down payment as FHA since you have to live there for a year and it also includes your renovation costs in the loan. It takes some work to find a deal where the numbers work but might be worth looking into as it would allow you to buy a distressed property in Raleigh, have it fixed up then get it appraised at a higher value and pull the equity out to invest in other deals. For that reason it seems to me like an ideal strategy to start investing. I'm also looking for a distressed property but looking a little further out in hopes of finding something that has some cash flow


Hi Kevin thanks for the reply! I have considered 203k loans, however I hear they are hard to come by and I also did not want to use FHA for my first property as I have heard it is hard to get a follow up loan within a year of using FHA (i plan to buy one property each year for first 3). I also wanted to save the 203k loan for when I became a little more seasoned (~3rd property). With housing prices being where they are though, I think it is something I should reconsider however. Thanks for the suggestion, I will keep this in mind.

Post: Buy SFH now or wait for MFH

Rea CooperPosted
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Quote from @Brandon Vanderford:

Hey Rea, some of your strategy will be dependent on whether you are aiming for immediate cash flow or long-term appreciation. I see that you are posting here in Raleigh. I am very optimistic for future appreciation in the area. However, the prices are high, and your immediate month-to-month cashflow might be better elsewhere. 

Another Wake County specific tip. The Raleigh area tends to have far fewer multifamily homes than the average, similar-sized city. You might look at Durham, instead. That will open your options a bit. 

If I were in your shoes, I would probably act sooner rather than later, if the numbers on the house hack make sense (just because I like to take action rather than wait). Of course, I cannot predict what the house market will look like in 12 months, so there might be some advantage in waiting. 


 Hi Brandon, thanks for the response! I am in this for the long haul so even if I only cash flow $50/mo, I am okay with it since it is my first property. Also, funny enough, I am looking at investing in Durham mainly. Even in Durham though it seems multifamily inventory is nonexistent unless your willing to pay 700k+ (which i don't have yet). I see you're a property manager, just curious, have you heard of any property management groups that do rent by the room in the area?

Post: Buy SFH now or wait for MFH

Rea CooperPosted
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Question: Should I start with a single family and house hack or wait for ~10 months for multifamily?

Hi BP family! So I am conflicted right now. Due to rising interest rates, I do not have the capital for buying a MFH property and I most likely will not have the capital until ~September 2023. So should I wait until I have the capital or should I buy SFH now? Short term rentals will be my main play and there are a few good properties in the area however, the properties are either in areas of slow growth (house age + lack of development = low appreciation) or they are priced at the high end for the area they reside.

Quick summary of my RE strategy: I plan on buying small to medium SFH or MFH properties (2-4 units) until I gain the capital to invest in the larger MFH units (8-100+ units).

A few other questions that I have are these as well:

1) As a first time home buyer, would it be a good idea to look in other states where properties are cheaper?

2) Should I try to find someone to partner with? I do not have someone in my current circle who is into RE so I would have to meet someone, but is this wise when I have no experience?

Thanks in advance for all advice!

Quote from @Obed Calixte:

What are the reviews and ratings like for the STRs in the area currently? Are they fair, mixed bag or terrible?

 What's your risk tolerance? If it is moderate-high, then the gentrification play may best align. If you are highly risk adverse, then the more stabilized areas may be best. 


Thanks for the reply, it seems there is limited Airbnbs in the area I am searching but they do have good reviews, though there are less than 5 in the area. Risk tolerance for this property is high however, after thinking, I may attempt to lower the risk by asking for a lower price on the house. Is this a good idea?

Quote from @Scott Mac:

What kind of reviews do you think people will leave--hood, ghetto, gunfire all night long, scary, etc... [OR] gentrifying, pleasant experience, nice area, safe area...etc..

The place might be ok, but if the reviews come up bad, your price per night (and potential renters) might get pretty low on the totem pole.

Thanks for this, I guess I should actually check what other Airbnb reviews around the area look like to set my expectations. 

Quote from @Nate Sanow:

I own something similar and I'm waiting for a few more properties to REALLY improve next door before I go into STR. I'd suggest doing LTR just a pinch below full market rent to get the hang of things and then pivot down the road. It's a long term play but with patience you and I should each get killer returns a few years from now.

I am with you on the returns! And I actually never considered the LTR approach for this property, thanks for the suggestion, I will definitely keep this in my mind should I go through with the purchase. 

Quote from @John Hernandez:

I imagine questions like: 

1. Is this gentrification occurring because of investors and is it backed by the city? If so, it may pay off in 5 years or so. A similar thing is happening in South parts of Houston but residents with financially sensitive incomes have led grass roots opposition causing a significant slow down on improvements. 

2. What would make someone from OOT, who can only gain perspective of the city area by online assumptions of being crime ridden, want to consider the location otherwise? Are there major tourist developments coming down the pipeline? If these improvements are early in development, the rent you can charge won’t be at the market peak and will that still make you cash flow positive?

3. The fact that your perception of the area was of it being a less than ideal location and it took “boots on the ground” to change the perception, hints that this is still in the early stages. Are you able and willing to wait out the long game to reap “possible” equity rewards. It seems like you have enough investment money to consider many options, is this the best payout for your RE plan?

You make a lot of good points. From what I can tell via articles, the revitalization of the area seems to be driven by the companies that are coming into the market. Currently the draw is that OOT would be in close proximity to downtown, tech companies, and also the local universities. My strategy was to play the long game but as you stated in regard to Houston, this is risky. Thanks for the reply, I think I will take a little more time and think about if the rewards outweigh the potential risks.