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All Forum Posts by: Ray Jender

Ray Jender has started 2 posts and replied 6 times.

Post: Non-Recourse Mortgages With 2nd Mortgage

Ray JenderPosted
  • Sierra Vista, AZ
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 0

Oh , and currently our credit scores are both 750+.  We really don't care if they take a hit.  No more credit for us.

Post: Non-Recourse Mortgages With 2nd Mortgage

Ray JenderPosted
  • Sierra Vista, AZ
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 0

We are currently renting the property out.  We still come up $350/month short  to cover the 2 mortgages.

As we are semi-retired and live in Florida, we really don't need to be out of pocket. Being underwater as much as we are, there really is no other solution.

Post: Non-Recourse Mortgages With 2nd Mortgage

Ray JenderPosted
  • Sierra Vista, AZ
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 0

We will be walking away from our property in Arizona that is under water by at least $50K. I don't think it will ever recover.

We bought in 2005 (of course at the peak of the RE boom) using an 80/20.  The 20 went all towards the purchase.

My question is:  The 2nd has been sold a couple times.  Does that affect the non-recourse walk away event at all?

Is the 2nd subject to the Az. non-recourse laws regardless of how many time it has been sold?

Post: House Underwater...Looking To Buy Another?

Ray JenderPosted
  • Sierra Vista, AZ
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 0

Thanks again Spenser. I will definately have to call my HR on Monday to find out my options.

Post: House Underwater...Looking To Buy Another?

Ray JenderPosted
  • Sierra Vista, AZ
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 0

Thanks for the response Spenser.

Yes, the 50K is in my current employer 401K plan. There is more in there, but I'm only looking for 50K. How can I take the loan for a primary house when I already have a primary house? Are you saying that if I take a loan for longer than I plan on working, the loan will convert to a distribution and taxes will then be due?

Thanks,

Ray

Post: House Underwater...Looking To Buy Another?

Ray JenderPosted
  • Sierra Vista, AZ
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 0

So I am 64 and getting ready to retire at 66 or 67. We are really interested in Florida. A condo or townhome.

But here's the issue. Our current home is underwater. Sure I made a mistake of buying at the peak. Paid $240K in 2005. It's now worth maybe $190K. If the market does not pick up considerably in the next 2-3 years, I am considering walking. I am in Arizona where the law says the mortgage company cannot come after me. I have an 80/20. Both me and my wife's current credit score is near 800. We have no bills except the 2 mortgages and normal household bills.

I don't have a lot of available cash to put down. I do have a 401K that despite the "never touch it" recommendations I have been reading, it's my money and I should have access to it. I would like to access $50K for a down payment. I know I would be liable for federal and state taxes. I'm good with that. I can pay the taxes now or later, what's the difference (besides a lower bracket later). Right now after deductions, I am in the 15% bracket.

So does anyone know how I can access my own money? As I understand it, you have to retire from the company or be in some hardship situation. I am in neither. Like I said, I'd like to purchase the Florida property now or within the next year while I am still working. When I retire, I will have roughly $50K of income/yr from a pension and SS.

Ideas?