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All Forum Posts by: Ray Fajardo

Ray Fajardo has started 1 posts and replied 4 times.

Quote from @Brody Garcia:

Above 4 units you would need a commercial loan but they would look more at the deal then your personals for qualification. Though the financing would not be as favorable compared to a 4-plex. 

You can use the income on a 4-plex to help qualify , I purchased a home with a granny unit and I was able to add 1k to my monthly income to lower my DtI ratio.

I personally am looking for a distressed 4-plex to House-Hack right now because of the low down payment options.


 When you say a 5 or more unit financing would not be as favorable, are you talking about the DP or the Interest rate or both?

Best of luck on your hunt for your 4-plex.

Quote from @Nick Velez:

@Ray Fajardo

Keep in mind that with FHA loans, 3-4 units have to pass the self sufficient rule. The remaining income from the other 2-3 units has to cover your PITI, otherwise it fails.

To use rental income from your primary residence, FHA loans require that your new primary be 100 miles away from the new one. If it is not, you will eat both PITI payments and likely not qualify unless you have sufficient income.


 Yikes, I was not planning on getting a MF 100 miles away...maybe 20 or so.  Would a cost segregation study that was mentioned earlier in this post help with this?

Quote from @Bonnie Griffin Kaake:
Quote from @Ray Fajardo:

Hi There,

Located in the North Central / Central Fl area and bought a SF about a year and a half ago, no real equity yet. Considering renting it out, ideally it cash flows since we have a fixed 2.75% 30 yr fixed, or at least pays itself while my wife and 2 toddlers house hack a 4 plex. Would ideally like a bigger than 4 unit MF to start, for the sake of cash flow. Thoughts on getting larger than 4 plex for our first REI?

Thinking it would be best in our situation to get a low down payment loan, fha or otherwise.   

Would there be financing advantages to getting more than 4 units, ie: counting rents as income to qualify for a higher purchase price/loan?

Any advice or critiques or first hand experience on doing similar to this plan?


 Don't forget that as soon as you list your single family for rent, you have the ability to do a cost segregation study. This will add to your cash flow since your income on the rental will not likely be taxed until your benefits run out. Of course, this depends on your tax situation and the original purchase price of your SF plus whatever improvements you put in for turning it into a rental. Be sure to discuss this with your CPA/tax professional once you get the cost seg estimate so that you understand how this will or will not affect your ability to get a loan. It could also affect when you do the cost seg. You will have the benefit of 100% bonus depreciation if you list it for rent in 2022. In 2023 the bonus drops to 80%. 

Very interesting...may I ask what these studies cost and how long do they take?

Could you please elaborate on the 100% bonus depreciation?  Is that for the purchase price of the property, if it rents out before 2023 or only if I list it?  

Thank you for your response.

Hi There,

Located in the North Central / Central Fl area and bought a SF about a year and a half ago, no real equity yet. Considering renting it out, ideally it cash flows since we have a fixed 2.75% 30 yr fixed, or at least pays itself while my wife and 2 toddlers house hack a 4 plex. Would ideally like a bigger than 4 unit MF to start, for the sake of cash flow. Thoughts on getting larger than 4 plex for our first REI?

Thinking it would be best in our situation to get a low down payment loan, fha or otherwise.   

Would there be financing advantages to getting more than 4 units, ie: counting rents as income to qualify for a higher purchase price/loan?

Any advice or critiques or first hand experience on doing similar to this plan?