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All Forum Posts by: Randall Prosise

Randall Prosise has started 4 posts and replied 19 times.

Post: Should I invest in a new market, living around the world from it?

Randall ProsisePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Scottsdale, AZ
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 14

@Lane Kawaoka good point Lane.  Thanks for your insight.  It is nice to know of others who are successful doing what I would like to do. 

Post: Should I invest in a new market, living around the world from it?

Randall ProsisePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Scottsdale, AZ
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 14

@Ryan Evans thanks for the insight.  You are right, there are new buildings being completed and many units entering the market; however, these are rental units that command a much higher price per sf than my units, and usually charge and extra $150-200/mo for parking, while my places all have dedicated building parking.  The fact that most of these (almost all) buildings are apartment rentals and not condos for sale, I believe the inventory of condos for sale will still remain low, and will continue to drive the prices up.  That being said, I do agree with you about getting out while the market is this hot and reinvesting into a different one where I can get better cash flow for my objectives.  Which is the reason for my post.  I appreciate what you did, and it makes me feel better knowing what I would like to do is not too crazy.  Thanks again again your input, I appreciate it!

Post: Should I invest in a new market, living around the world from it?

Randall ProsisePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Scottsdale, AZ
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 14

@James Wise  Thanks James, I appreciate the help!

Post: Should I invest in a new market, living around the world from it?

Randall ProsisePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Scottsdale, AZ
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 14

@Michael Hacker  I guess I am looking at it from a few different standpoints.  I do agree that the economy is doing very well in Seattle and there is a thriving tech industry that keeps growing every year.  The appreciation alone is a reason to stay in that market.  I have been averaging over 20% over the last 4 years.  I do not expect better appreciation in Phoenix, but I do see a better cash flow opportunity to pay off my existing loans faster, and the market there seems to be heating up a bit.  When I see that I can basically trade a 505sf one-bedroom unit for an 8-plex that has 4x the cash flow, my interest is piqued.  When I can use that same 505sf unit to 1031 exchange as 40% down on a 12-unit apartment building with 8x the cash flow, I realize I need to explore this further.  The fact that I eventually want to own buildings, and that I will end up living in or near the Phoenix market, it seems like a no-brainer to at least peel off one of my 7 units to test out this market and new venture.  I am seeing the pros and the cons, which is why I posted here.  Thank you for your insight, I appreciate it!

Post: Should I invest in a new market, living around the world from it?

Randall ProsisePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Scottsdale, AZ
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 14

@Steve Vaughan Yes, you mention just some of my  "other ridiculous laws" (I wanted to keep my post to a minimum).  Disturbing regulations and taxes that affect our business for sure.  Sad what is happening...  

Post: Should I invest in a new market, living around the world from it?

Randall ProsisePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Scottsdale, AZ
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 14

@Steve Vaughan  Thanks for the input.  I agree that the more familiar you are with the market, the better decisions you can make.

Post: Should I invest in a new market, living around the world from it?

Randall ProsisePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Scottsdale, AZ
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 14

@Jay Hinrichs  Thank you for the insight.  I appreciate what you are saying, and you make a very valid point.  Maybe part of my wanting to move markets is due to what is happening in Seattle with the government imposing ridiculous rental regulations (ie. $14/night AirBnB tax, and letting renters pay their deposit over the first 6 months of the lease, among other ridiculous laws), as well as increasing my property taxes 25% this year to pay for their wasteful spending, versus a more conservative government in Phoenix garnering less property tax and more relaxed rental rules.  I am trying to keep my personal feelings out of it, but it really does affect my business and the bottom line.

You do give me something to consider though, thanks again!

Post: Should I invest in a new market, living around the world from it?

Randall ProsisePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Scottsdale, AZ
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 14

@Chris T.  Xie Xie Ni.  You make a great point that I just realized needs to be my first big focus:  Finding a great broker and lender that will be able to work for me and take the guesswork out of a deal.  Thanks so much for your input, I really appreciate it!

Post: Should I invest in a new market, living around the world from it?

Randall ProsisePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Scottsdale, AZ
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 14

Hello everyone, and thanks in advance for any insight you may provide!

I currently live and work in Beijing, and have a rental property portfolio in the form of 7 condo units in downtown Seattle.  They are managed very well and cash flow, which is really nice living halfway around the world from them.  My property is in one of the best locations of that market, and annual appreciation has been steady for a few years at 20-22%.  All of the units have already appreciated 50-150%, and the value of the units range from $350-700k.  My equity ranges from 30-90% of the current value, depending on the unit.  They are all great condos in newer buildings and excellent locations in the Belltown neighborhood.  For individual units, the cap rate isn't too bad at around 2-5%, especially considering the appreciation, but I feel like I have money stuffed under the mattress with the large amounts of equity I have built up in them.

My end game is to leave Beijing and move to the SW U.S. when I retire from my current career within the next 5 years.  I am looking at the Phoenix market right now to 1031 exchange one or more of my units into an apartment building.  My plan is to eventually own a few buildings to provide my retirement income, as well keep me personally involved in the real estate business.

I have never owned a whole building before, but as I read books, gather knowledge, and talk to my friends that do own buidings, I feel comfortable with making this transition.  I have owned rentals for over 10 years and have residential construction in my background, so I am feeling good about this new venture.  I am also thinking of starting small at first to get my feet wet, using 1 or 2 of my properties to 1031 exchange into a 10-25 unit building.  I would really like to leverage this equity I have built into a bigger investment, and do it sooner than later.

I am just not sure if it is smart to uproot my worry-free investments from a great market, and re-invest into a city that I am not that familiar with, especially without being there full time to look after the buildings?  I wouldn't be posing this question if I lived in Phoenix, as I could easily be more hands-on with the process of buying and managing, and would even be interested in acquiring property that needed work done on it to add value. 

At this point, I am looking at property online and talking to potential agents via email.  I plan to travel to Phoenix next month to chose the right agent, look at property, learn more about the neighborhoods, and talk to lenders regarding financing.  I would really like to get a jump-start on my portfolio in Phoenix before I move there, and the timing seems right in both markets; however, my biggest concern is getting into a property that eventually needs my personal attention on-site, for whatever reason, and ends up being a bad deal.  Am I wise to proceed with cashing out of the Seattle market, using my equity to leverage a bigger investment in Phoenix now, or should I wait a few more years until I am living in the U.S.?

What do you think?  ANY insight, advice, or recommendation you can give is welcomed and appreciated.

Thank you!  

Randy