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All Forum Posts by: Raden Mantuano

Raden Mantuano has started 11 posts and replied 50 times.

Originally posted by @Jason D.:
@Raden Mantuano not only are you having to bank on appreciation, you are gambling on where interest rates are going to be in 9 years. When the loan is due, you'll either have to sell or refinance. You're, basically, talking about a 40 year loan on a $40k property. You're paying over $30k in interest over those first 9 years and will still owe the entire balance, then refinance for another 30 years. This property will cost you well over $100k in total. I'm sorry, but this seems like a disaster waiting to happen. If you really want this property, take a conventional loan on it. Take the money you say you have as repair reserves and use that as a downpayment. Your monthly payments will be less that in interest only payment you plan to make to the seller, and you'll be paying down the loan.

Can't all these negative out looks be offset by adding a few more properties under my belt that are cash flowing therefore having more cash at hand in the future?

I guess.. the "A" action taker in me took over on this deal.. 

I also figured by doing seller financed with little down, I don’t have much risk on my end even if the deal was shot he can decide to take the property back if worse comes to worse.. and I doubt he’d want to be left hold the bag

Originally posted by @Caleb Heimsoth:
Originally posted by @Raden Mantuano:
Originally posted by @Caleb Heimsoth:

@Raden Mantuano. Your repairs are way to low. I wouldn’t do this deal. You’re not getting enough rent for that purchase price. Low end homes (50k or less) should be 2 percent rule or better. What happens when the tenant moves out, leaves a bunch of trash behind and you need to repaint and clean it out. There goes all your cash flow

 I have the money accounted for the repairs. However, it is rent ready as Property management has done walk through. 

When you say “money accounting for repairs” are you talking about the numbers above?  If so that won’t be enough in the long run.

It may be rent ready is but it won’t be when the next tenant lives there a couple years then leaves

 No, I have reserves and will have more. 

Originally posted by @Caleb Heimsoth:

@Raden Mantuano. Your repairs are way to low. I wouldn’t do this deal. You’re not getting enough rent for that purchase price. Low end homes (50k or less) should be 2 percent rule or better. What happens when the tenant moves out, leaves a bunch of trash behind and you need to repaint and clean it out. There goes all your cash flow

 I have the money accounted for the repairs. However, it is rent ready as Property management has done walk through. 

Originally posted by @Corby Goade:

Good advice from @Nathan Gesner above. To directly answer your question, are you not allowed by the contract to pay more than the interest? If your cash flow allows, why not attack the principle and be done with the loan asap?

REI is a long term game and there are a few things that I'd like to address about your concerns with equity build up. There are markets, especially lower end markets where you can buy and cash flow a property for $50k, where appreciation is slow to non-existent. Investing in these markets can be tough, and you have to prepare yourself for the fact that you might not see any appreciation.

Secondly, the REI market goes up and down in cycles. I've been through cycles when I had several properties under water, but rent was covering my expenses. You have to buy properties and put yourself in a financial position that you can weather a storm like that and come through the other side.

 I can run it by the seller cause ide think that would be a good idea. But yes getting into the deal I was more focused on the idea of cashflow, however I mentioned the balloon payment realizing with that strategy I’m depending on appreciation, however Memphis does have a good outlook of appreciation 

Originally posted by @Alex S.:

Why borrow at 8.5% from the seller when you can borrow from the bank at 5%?

 It was a trade off for the low to no money down.. 

Originally posted by @Nathan Gesner:

I don't think you're ready. According to your other post, you had to borrow from family just to obtain the $500 earnest money deposit. This indicates you have nothing saved as a reserve and are banking on the tenant's rent to help you save up.

In reality, most homes have problems after purchase. It sits vacant for two months. An appliance breaks. The furnace goes out and requires repairs or replacement. In almost every property I've ever bought, there were unexpected expenses within the first six months even though I did a property inspection with a professional.

How are you going to float the payment each month if it's vacant? If no tenant, you will still have to pay the mortgage, taxes, and insurance. You also have utilities which I assume could run at least $150 a month in the winter. This will cost you as much as the earnest money deposit every month! Are you going to borrow that from family?

I regularly tell people it is a mistake to put your last dime into buying a home. It's even worse to borrow money to purchase a home because now you are indebted to two people and you still don't have funds to handle an emergency.

I recommend you find a reason to get the earnest money back, pay off your family, and focus on saving and preparing for your purchase instead of trying to borrow your way to wealth. If you can't save $500 for a deposit and a reserve fund of at least three months vacancy then I think you're asking for trouble.

 Hey Nathan, I appreciate the advice and all that is mentioned has already been accounted for. I do have income coming in, it was just a deal that needed decision right away.. I’m also a realtor and just close a couple deals so I’ll be packing on reserves. 

Hey everyone! 

So for those of you who’ve followed my previous post on getting my first rental property via seller finance, I wanted to follow up and get some insight on some of the terms we’ve agreed upon and accepted (In escrow now) the terms are as follows.

Purchase price $44k

Down $500

Note $43,500 financed at 8.5%

9 year interest only payments $308.13

balloon payment of principal at the end of year 9 (refinance)

Rent $650-$680

Property Management: 10% - $65/mo

Insurance: $43.75

Taxes: $340.20/yr = $28.35/mo

Vacancy Rate: 8.8% - $57.20/mo

Capex aka Repairs: 5% - $32.50/mo

Netting between: $115.07 and $215ish (not the best but something) 

My question is, with the terms agreed upon, I realized that because I’m paying interest only (Cashflow purposes) for 9 years and having to pay the full principal amount in 9 years, Does this mean I’m depending on the market appreciating? What happens if the market barely appreciates and I’m at year 9? What if it’s gone up only $5k, does this mean I have to come up with $38,500 somehow? Can I still refinance? Or are there other ways to pay the principal off? 

I was hoping to save the cashflow to get more properties... 

When the seller and I were going back and fourth I was totally going for more of the cashflow and acquiring the property with low to no money down during our negotiation...

I also was thinking if I just snow balled and used the cashflow to get more properties that are also cash flowing I can easily just have the balloon payment 9 years from now..

Thanks for your help guys! 

Originally posted by @Wayne Brooks:

Well then you should know the basic closing costs.....title search/insurance, deed/mtg recoding fees, closing fees, mtg docs prep, etc. and also which party typically pays what in your market.  Your contract should have detailed who pays what.  Talk to the title company for a prelim estimate.

EMD goest towards all of that right?

Originally posted by @Robert Biggerstaff:

I love your hustle in spirit! I would highly suggest kind of getting mobbed up with a good realtor and have them help you with the contract

so contacted a realtor in that area to help through that transaction would help? or just a realtor in general? im a realtor, just one who hasnt bought directly with a seller before.. just not sure whats the difference