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All Forum Posts by: Priscilla C.

Priscilla C. has started 6 posts and replied 29 times.

Thank you everyone for your advice.I will keep this in mind.Appreciate it and so glad to be apart of this community of knowledgeable investors!

Quote from @Greg Kasmer:

Priscilla - I think for your first deal you'll need to put in a chunk of cash yourself and perhaps combine with another private investor/lender. For example, if you buy with cash maybe you find 2-3 people to give you money for the renovations. Then, after you drive up the value you can refinance the property and get a 75% cash out refinance. With that cash from the refinance you pay your lenders back and retain what is left. I think if you do that once or twice you'll be in a better position to then secure a hard money loan from another lender and appropriate leverage OPM in a larger way. Good Luck!

Great advice.I believe there is also an opportunity for creative financing with a high credit score.Do investors pursue alternative financing for the Brrrr method?

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Hello fellow investors I would love it if you can please share any ideas on how to use OPM for a beginning investor when using the Brrrr strategy? I know about hard money lenders and a little on DSCR loans but how would I make these loans work to start my real estate business.In addition wondering if you all have any ideas on using a LLC to leverage OPM?


 For most getting started, the best way to get into the game is with atleast enough of your own money to put a down payment. That is usually the blocker that keeps people out.

If you ahve a down payment, you can get a bridge loan to rehab the property and assuming that goes well you can then get a DSCR loan for long term hold.

I would not try and raise money from people (alot of legal implications), but if you know people with money who want to invest, you may be able to get preferred terms

Also sometimes best to partner with someone with experience as well.

I see yes I agree on that.As homeowners we understand how much sheer determination it takes to save for a down payment.Would you recommend using OPM like a hard money lender to buy the property or would you recommend buying a property in cash?Yeah we definitely do not want to raise funds as it can be many issues in bringing family and friends into our business we believe.I have just finished the Brrrr strategy book by David Greene and he talks about using cash to buy a property.We originally were leaning on doing this as we felt it would be wiser to buy a property in cash however after research I see that using OPM might be a better solution as it would allow us to scale our real estate business faster and also allow us to keep cash reserves for any emergencies that can arise from tenants not paying rent,property damage etc.


 I agree with Andrew, if you have cash do your first project with your own money to prove proof of concept, many lenders will want to see you have experience and can manage and handle the project. Some will not finance to first time investors and those that do you will pay more in interest, so if you have cash use it for starting out since you should not scale and buy more than one property until you can prove to be successful.

Ok so your saying if we are able to pay cash for the property and rehab with our cash it is better then buying a property in cash and getting a bridge loan?
Quote from @Andrew Syrios:

It's generally fairly hard to convince someone to lend you a private loan if you have no experience investing. The only exception are parents, relatives and close friends (i.e. angel investors).

Best bet is to build some experience by house hacking (FHA loans allow for buying up to a fourplex, as long as you live there, with only 3.5% down). Then when you can show some success and a portfolio of experience, it's much easier to convince people to loan to you.


That's not a bad idea however we already have an FHA Loan for our primary home so that wouldn't be ideal and we are not looking to buy a property using a traditional loan as our goal is to use the Brrrr strategy for our first property.I believe If there is a strong strategy in place with a detailed bid of the rehab I believe that there is a possibility that we might find a hard money lender or possibly a DSCR loan opportunity.

Quote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @Priscilla C.:

Hello fellow investors I would love it if you can please share any ideas on how to use OPM for a beginning investor when using the Brrrr strategy? I know about hard money lenders and a little on DSCR loans but how would I make these loans work to start my real estate business.In addition wondering if you all have any ideas on using a LLC to leverage OPM?


 For most getting started, the best way to get into the game is with atleast enough of your own money to put a down payment. That is usually the blocker that keeps people out.

If you ahve a down payment, you can get a bridge loan to rehab the property and assuming that goes well you can then get a DSCR loan for long term hold.

I would not try and raise money from people (alot of legal implications), but if you know people with money who want to invest, you may be able to get preferred terms

Also sometimes best to partner with someone with experience as well.

I see yes I agree on that.As homeowners we understand how much sheer determination it takes to save for a down payment.Would you recommend using OPM like a hard money lender to buy the property or would you recommend buying a property in cash?Yeah we definitely do not want to raise funds as it can be many issues in bringing family and friends into our business we believe.I have just finished the Brrrr strategy book by David Greene and he talks about using cash to buy a property.We originally were leaning on doing this as we felt it would be wiser to buy a property in cash however after research I see that using OPM might be a better solution as it would allow us to scale our real estate business faster and also allow us to keep cash reserves for any emergencies that can arise from tenants not paying rent,property damage etc.

Quote from @Ben Fernandez:

Your backyard isn't a bad idea. What are there like 4-5 new Amazon plants within 30 minutes of Plainfield? Plainfield is rising. You can do well there with rentals. You also have North Lawndale, Woodlawn and Southeast where many new data centers are going in. Depends on your preferred barrier of entry...

Otherwise, Arizona, Texas, North Carolina and Ohio all come to mind in regards to emerging markets. Other locations in Utah, Idaho, South Carolina and Montana have also shown much emergence.

Overall, using the proper zip code research, you can find pockets everywhere. So, you don't need to invest far away for everything. But, it just depends on your comfort level. 

Overall, finding the zip codes that are growing in population is recommended.

Ok how do I find the zip codes that are growing in population.Is there an online website where I can see this?

Hello fellow investors I would love it if you can please share any ideas on how to use OPM for a beginning investor when using the Brrrr strategy? I know about hard money lenders and a little on DSCR loans but how would I make these loans work to start my real estate business.In addition wondering if you all have any ideas on using a LLC to leverage OPM?

Quote from @Hunter Goorsky:

I'd say best way is through connections with other investors in the community! Members are always bringing deals. 

I'm a member of the Joliet Regional Landlord Association and we hold monthly meetings for real estate investors to network, and we also bring in guest speakers to come speak to members about various topics.

You can message me if you have any questions! ✅


Ok awesome I will look into this and join.Thank you! 

Hello fellow Brrrr investors wondering if you have any recommendations for where we should invest in using the Brrrr strategy as a new investor?We are located in Joliet Illinois and looking for properties in state or out of state.Want to hear your input on where we might find affordable properties I can buy with cash that are on the path to progress.

Quote from @Mike Klarman:

On Cash purchases, most lending institutions will make you wait 3 - 6 months, sometimes more before you can refinance at new value. The ones with no seasoning periods will make you pay dearly either with the rate or with loan costs.

In the scenario you mentions above, if you bought a house for 30k (you didn't mention doing any work, but I assume since you mentioned BRRRR there is a rehab), you do the work and get a renter in there with a lease and then after the seasoning period, you now can refinance based off the new value of 165k of which you should get 75%.

But why 15 yr mortgage, why not 30 yr to make the payment smaller?  

A quick check for your max loan payment a lender will allow is to divide your rent/1.1 that number is around what the max loan payment will be by the lender.

All very good points,Yes was just using 15 year as an example but yes we will definitely be doing the 30 year to make the monthly payments smaller.We understand that from being homeowners.With the seasoning period that is a very good thing to keep in mind.It proves a point that buying a property in all cash might be more safe and beneficial for us then using a hard money loan as during that waiting period it would nice to not be charged fees and interest on a hard money loan.Correct we plan to rehab.Now do some investors buy the house in cash and then use a hard money loan for the rehab portion?