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All Forum Posts by: Preston Smedley

Preston Smedley has started 3 posts and replied 5 times.

Post: Buying New Home Rentals Vs Older Flips

Preston SmedleyPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Redlands, CA
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 1

I'm looking at a market and I can buy 20-30 year well maintained 3/2 single family (new floor, paint, etc.) for around $120-$130K. I also found a home builder where I can buy brand new 3/2 homes for $145-$155K in the same general area of the city.

What are opinions on buying a new home rental vs. slightly older flip home? I know most new build developments have restrictions on the number of investors and rentals. What other things should I be concerned about? Are there a lot of other risks for a new home being a rental? Since maybe the whole neighborhood isn't fully developed yet maybe that scares off a rental tenant? It seems that the new home would have better returns because less repairs and the home warranty for the first few years. Also being a newer development i would think it would appreciate slightly better. 

What does everyone think? Thanks for all your insights

Post: SoCal newbie needing general broad introductory advice

Preston SmedleyPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Redlands, CA
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 1

I agree if you are looking to invest locally the best is to go to a local real estate club. You can get advice and meet people that can help you close on deals you want (agents, insurance, title, etc.). Being conservative I would recommend investing in rentals in another state. I have been looking in our area and it's more difficult to find something that will cash flow than less expensive states so you are hoping on appreciation. If you are a long time BP lurker you probably see many articles where you could go. (GA, FL, TN, TX, etc.) At the club you will probably find others investing in other states too and you can partner with them or help get contacts to work with to find a place. 

But with your plan it's pretty easy to back into goals to get to what you want. I like to break things down and simplify then its much easy to be focused and know what you are after. Using 3% annual inflation on $60-75K it will be $122-$152K in 25 years when you retire at 59. So break that in small chunks to get there. You are going to have property management fees, assume some vacancy, taxes, insurance, capex, and maintenance even if the houses are paid for. I think 50% of the rent is very conservative for all those expenses what I have heard. Let's assume the 1% cash flow rule. You need around $2M to $2.5M in real estate. For easy math let's use $100K valued houses and $1000 rent (1% rule). If you buy 20 houses or 25 houses, that will get you there. At 20 houses @ $100K thats $2M in real estate and $240K in annual rents minus the 50% in expenses, so a net $120K. At 25 houses @ $100K thats $2.5M in real estate and $300K in annual rents minus the 50% in expenses, so a net $150K. So an easy goal if you buy 1 house a year for the 25 years until you retire at $100K, you can make it there pretty easy. At the income you can probably save the 20% or more down for that each year. Maybe the 50% expense is conservative so you might get even more. Also I'm not assuming appreciation but ideally there would be some. It will probably depend on your loan terms but a few houses will hopefully be paid off or close to at that point. 

Also keep putting away your 401k and roth. I like those because you are putting that money away and lowering your taxable income and hopefully where you work you get a match. This also will give you multiple streams of income to diversify so you have real estate and the stock market, and potentially social security if its still around and you have a regular w2 job. 

Post: Compensating Agent for Wholesale Help

Preston SmedleyPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Redlands, CA
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 1

Starting out if I use an agent to make offers, and run comps, what would be a fair compensation to them if I end up wholesaling a deal? 
My idea is to flip but if I get two low offers accepted at the same time, I will likely wholesale the 2nd. What do you think is fair? Should I plan to give the agent like 10% of the wholesale fee, or a flat $500-1000 referral? I would obvious use them again and have them be the listing agent when my flip is complete. Is the ongoing future relationship the expectation for most? 

Post: LLC Costs - How much? Is this a good deal?

Preston SmedleyPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Redlands, CA
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 1

@Weston Couch yes. I know I would have to pay the $800 per year if I establish the LLC in California.

Also I do not have to get both services. As I looked at a couple other forum posts I saw LLC set ups at $500-1000. Then if I had to pay a CPA to file my quarterly/year end returns, I am assuming that would be another few hundred per year where I thought the first service seemed reasonable. Especially if I want to add another LLC, they would help with up to 4 more.

Thanks for everyone's advice and help. 

Post: LLC Costs - How much? Is this a good deal?

Preston SmedleyPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Redlands, CA
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 1

I'm a new investor and looking to start out with a couple flips a year to generate cash to fund purchases on rentals and duplexes. I live in California and have owned one rental property in Texas a few years. I think I would likely invest in other states for the rentals and duplexes due to the prices in California. 

I have been listening to some of the podcasts and I thought from most I have listened to that the initial business set up costs a few thousand $'s.  I was offered by a group  an initial set up of $2,560. They would help me create and do quarterly filing on up to 5 business LLCs. They also offer unlimited consulting and access to their tax/legal group. Then after 2 years starting 2021 they would charge $150 for personal returns and $250 per business return annually. 

In conjunction with the LLC and tax saving they also offered a funding and business credit line service. It is a software and education tool that supposedly builds my business credit and paydex score to 80-85 within 3-5 months so I can use the business instead of my personal guarantee. Plus I should get loans and line of credit rates using the business and I don't have to worry as much for debt to income ratios. This service they offered for a one time membership fee for $2495.

With both services its about $5K plus my state filings. Do you think this is worth it? I know I can try to do my own on legal zoom cheaper. But I'd rather have everything correct so I make sure I take advantage of any business expenses and deductions with an LLC. And since I'm new, if I'm getting unlimited consultation from attorneys or CPA for a couple years starting out that sounds like it would be helpful.

What are your thoughts? Thanks for your help

Preston