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All Forum Posts by: Travis Jones

Travis Jones has started 3 posts and replied 7 times.

Post: Duplex Appraisal - $1500 / 2 months?

Travis JonesPosted
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 4

@Jaron Walling @Mathew Wray @Brad Hammond Thanks gentlemen. I should've been more clear - I called my lender (PenFed) and asked about the process to get an appraisal to drop PMI. The woman on the phone said to just get an appraisal and submit it to them - that's it. She said I could use any appraiser I wished...she made it sound almost too easy. However, once I was getting $1500 quotes, it became more important to me to get that in writing from the lender. So I wait for confirmation.

@Brad Hammond Could you recommend an appraiser that's doing duplex' in the $750-$1000 range?   

@Will Fraser You're right - appraisers are busy so they're coming up with quotes that would make it worth their while to take on. 

Thanks again all; I appreciate your insight. 

Post: Duplex Appraisal - $1500 / 2 months?

Travis JonesPosted
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 4

Hello all.

Shopping around for an appraisal on a simple duplex in NE Portland and I'm getting back quotes of $1500 and almost 2 month turnaround times.  I bought the property 3 years ago and paid $500 for the appraisal.

Should I continue shopping around while I wait for confirmation from the lender that they'll accept any licensed appraiser, or do appraisals cost $1500 now?

Thanks! 

Hey Brad, I appreciate the reply.

I'm not looking for a GC per se, more like a handyman who can respond quickly to reset a breaker or change a toilet seat since I'm 3 hours away.  However, I will definitely keep Paul's number, as I will have a larger remodel coming up and may hire a GC to save myself some hassle.

I will certainly call Ms. Gina though; I'll let her know you sent me.


Thanks again! 

Hello all.  I have a rental unit coming online shortly and I'm in need of a dependable handyman.  I live 3 hours away, so I need someone who I can rely on to respond to exigent issues at the property.  Not looking for the cheapest guy, just the most trustworthy and reliable.  I don't have any projects at the moment, but it would be nice to have someone to call before something goes wrong. 

I'm also looking for some cleaners to do a one-time initial clean at a minimum, and potentially on a recurring basis if requested by tenant. 

Anyone care to give up their contacts?  The house is in NE Portland, near 90th& Halsey.

Thanks! 

Thanks everyone for the great replies.

Matthew & Daniel - I think you're right, the SFR & ADU may be much more manageable in the beginning. I need to get out there and hit the street so I can get a better feel for the area.

Jason - I set my limit at 450k so in the event that I have 0% occupancy in any/all units, I can still float the mortgage without tapping myself out.  I'm not an investor and don't want to take big risk, especially with my first deal.  I'm trying to be conservative while still setting myself up for potential earnings.  Additionally, like you mentioned, I'd like to be able to float the mortgage myself in the event I find a trashed 4-plex and rehab the units myself at a pace in which my full time job allows.

When you say suburbs or secondary suburbs, you mean outside of the Portland city limits, correct?  Is there any direction I should be focusing on?  What areas are "up and coming"?

Thanks again to everyone, I appreciate all the assistance.  I will continue to do my research until I get out there. 

Thanks Matthew, I appreciate the quick response and honesty!

Like I said, looking at listings I was not impressed with the high numbers that's why I was leaning towards new construction.  However, my searches are not turning up results like the duplex you mentioned...unless I'm missing something really important here that I don't know about.

I mean, this one seems reasonable, no? 

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/...

Hello all.  I will be relocating to Portland in April, and would like to start my real estate investment portfolio.  The more research I do, the more questions arise.  I'd like to introduce myself and tap into your knowledge base...sorry for the wall of text.      

About me: Late 30's, respectable salary (125k) in a very secure field, no major capital reserves that I plan on tapping into, FHA 203(k) likely, maximum total mortgage 450k, prefer buy & hold for an extended time, prefer properties in the Portland area (for now), I have a construction background and plan on doing as much contractor work as financially responsible, and I intend to stay in Portland for the foreseeable future.

As far as I can tell, Portland is not the ideal place to make hoards of cash in real estate at the moment.  However, I plan on being here for quite some time and would prefer to be hands-on with my property(ies).  I'd love to create a solid portfolio of cash-flowing rentals that I can hold for 20-30 years.  

Being that a 203(k) is my funding source and I will be required to live in one unit for one year I initially thought to purchase a larger property zoned at least r3 that has an existing structure and is in the low-mid 200's.  Using the rehab loan clean up the existing structure, and utilizing a portion of the foundation, add a modular or steel duplex over a basement thereby achieving 4 units and hopefully all in under 450k.  If zoning allows more units, I would add smaller detached modular / steel units as fast as cash flow allows.  However, I recently found out that 3+ units in Portland are subject to commercial building code which can be much more expensive than residential.

The pros I see are only one property to finance/develop/maintain/manage and the potential for healthy cash-flow.  The con is that it's a massive undertaking, I have zero experience in this field, and I will likely max out my budget on this property and won't be able to buy another until enough equity is built.

The other idea I had was to purchase smaller properties that are sub 100k and build a smaller (1200-1400sf) SFR modular or steel building and an ADU, or build over a basement (if zoning allows MF) and ideally all in at around 150k.  Live in one unit for a year, rent the other, and repeat the whole process every year.

Pros: Very low initial outlay, and a very manageable scale.  Cons: more properties to maintain/manage, land prices will only to continue to go up as eligible properties become more and more scarce and I will have to move once a year.   

The third option would be to buy a preexisting 4 unit, but they don't appear to be priced anywhere near 450k.

Being that I have not arrived in Portland yet and haven't been able to drill down solid numbers in order to put pencil to paper, my projections may be way off. 

I'm not scared to work and I love a challenge.  I like to think outside the box (for better or worse), and look for clever solutions to unique problems.  With that said, I want to develop a solid strategy to ensure my investment is as wise and secure as possible.  

Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated!