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All Forum Posts by: Peter Smith

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Post: Multiple unrelated occupants

Peter Smith
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I have never heard of a work around. Given that “students” is not a protected class, it’s extremely hard to argue against zoning rules as they relate to them in housing. Parking is usually one of the restrictions that cap the amount of unrelated persons. If you have a way to obtain more parking it may be a helpful step in conforming to their rules. Please note that parking may just be one of the steps needed to comply.

Post: Student housing rentals, where to start, what's the best.

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Hi James, 

With student properties the size really comes down to the number of beds. A single family with permits for 7-8 students may be more profitable than a 3 units with two beds in each unit. That said, units with lower bed counts will be easier to manage. As a first timer, I would be cautious of houses or units with a large number of renters within one shared unit. I agree with Travis that multi units can help spread risk. 

As with any type of real estate - location, location, location. Typically, the closer to the school the better, but markets vary. Some locations may have "pockets" of high density student housing that proves to be more popular than a house across from one section of campus. Also, make sure student housing is permitted in the area of the city/town that you are investing in. 

Best of luck!

Post: Getting Started - Interested in Student Rentals in Orlando

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I would concur that value ad is typically the way to go, particularly in student rentals. But like Will said, markets can vary.

Students, in my opinion, are actually not much riskier than market-rate renters. There are good and there are bad in both marketplaces. To your second part, the one nice thing about student renters is that even when you have bad ones, they leave eventually. I have always liked knowing that there is inherent resolution (them moving out) to most issues. 

Turnover can very from market-to-market. Some schools allow students to live off campus all 4 (or more) years. This would give you an opportunity to rent to the same person(s) for a few years. Some schools only allow upperclassmen to live off campus. In this case, you could expect to turn 50% of your units on any given year. As nice as it can be to have stable tenants, we usually feel like the unit(s) need to be extensively turned over if the residents are there 3 or more years. So one could argue "lighter" turns are easier every year or two, versus, extensive turns after a few years. 

- How risky are student tenants? We were pretty good kids in college, but of course we had parties and made our share of messes. I can handle some college shenanigans, but I'd also love to hear some horror stories if anyone has one.

- What sort of turnover can we expect? The idea of a natural turnover seems more of a benefit than a drawback to me, but I'd love to know some rules of thumb for just how frequent can be expected.

Post: Renting to College Students

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Without knowing the specifics of the Providence market, I would suggest researching the locations of other student housing providers (ex: https://the02908club.com/). If there are other housing units around your property it would clearly suggest it is viable. If not, I would be hesitant. Also, an 8min walk vs 8 min drive is a big difference in the world of student housing. 

Sometimes, landlords can find student renters for locations that are further away from the school by targeting niche's like graduate students (who are less inclined to be near the bars and noise). This may work for the smaller units. However, that same market segment usually isn't interested in larger houses, such as a 5 bedroom. 

Post: Renting to College Students

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@Caleb Rehg I have been active in student housing for 20 years. Feel free to reach out to chat all things student housing!

Post: Student Housing Zoning Regulations

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In every market there will be certain "bad actors" not following the rules. 

Another reason could be that some properties are "grandfathered." In other words, a landlord may have been renting a house to 5 people before the new zoning laws were enacted. Now the neighborhood only allows three unrelated persons in each house. However, because that house was renting to 5 people prior (legally), they would still be allowed to continue that use. So it may appear some are not following the rules of that neighborhood, but in reality some of them may be operating within their rights. 

Each municipality/city will have a list of individual properties that lists how many unrelated are allowed in that property.