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All Forum Posts by: Peter Pearson

Peter Pearson has started 2 posts and replied 21 times.

Post: Utah builder taking construction deposits w/ nothing to show for it. Help!

Peter PearsonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Clearfield, UT
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 7

@Logan M.

I found the company that recorded the lien and reached out. Thanks for that insight. I had the NOD the whole time, but disregarded the lawyer jargon, which I should have paid more attention to.

They were a plethora of information, I'd guess because they're investors as well. It certainly opened up options I wasn't expecting and overall a good resource when the builder has been *crickets*.

Post: Utah builder taking construction deposits w/ nothing to show for it. Help!

Peter PearsonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Clearfield, UT
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 7

@Logan M.

My understanding is the builder was financing the build, utilizing a bridge loan and 25% lot deposits as collateral. I'm not aware of specifics on this as I'm not privy to their specific workings and they've conveniently become very vague about everything related to this project.

Post: Utah builder taking construction deposits w/ nothing to show for it. Help!

Peter PearsonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Clearfield, UT
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 7

Good evening BPers,

I wanted to run my specific situation past the collective of you in hopes of some well thought out help. I'll give wavetops and hope to get some decent advice on moving forward.

Situation: I'm a realtor representing myself and one other client in a transaction. We both put down a construction deposit of $87k + $10K in earnest $ (in 2022) towards some townhomes that were supposed to be completed mid 2024. Along the way we signed an addendum stating the builder needed to extend the financing deadline to June 30th of this year, not a big deal up until about 2 weeks ago when their realtors stated the builder had to file a notice of default on the land to the company he acquired a bridge loan from. 

So far we've asked for construction deposit + EM deposit + $10K in liquidated damages back, which was an option on the contract in the event the builder defaulted. All we're getting back from builder's realtors are "all deposits were released to the builder and he isn't in a position to give back your money, contact your broker to figure out your options" also more lately we were given an "olive branch" to be able to hope on the builder's next project and he would allow us to put a lien on a few of the townhomes he's building to make us whole. Which they're waiting on financing approval on that project as well.

I'm not the smartest guy, but from some vague conversations with a lawyer.. he's saying this all just ends up in bankruptcy court and I'll be lucky to get back 70-80% of what we've put up for money, on top of having to pay his bill. This builder isn't the biggest around, but he has a name that most in the area would recognize, hence some of our initial trust in how the contract was written.

Questions: If builder pissed away all of our money on the "down payment on the land, engineering, architecture, environmental studies, ect".. What's the best way to get our money back?

We're not the only buyers in this situation, is there any power in finding other people that are being to the same as we are?

My current options: 1. Hire a lawyer and sue 2. Attempt arbitration/mediation (is this effective?) 3. Hope builder isn't just spiraling and go along with the lien on his next project? 4. Just go after him in collections court.

Final thoughts: It doesn't seem fair to me to give up almost $200K to someone and have nothing to show for it. I'm not sure the best route to go or what's exactly normal for builders in Utah (my first delve into new construction as a buyer), so any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance for your outlook.

Post: STR Ogden / Eden Utah

Peter PearsonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Clearfield, UT
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 7

@Jess Carr

I just started a free trial at mushvisor.com, it's supposed to be accurate in predicting CoC return and cap rates in whatever areas you're looking at.

Also sent you an email as I'm an investor/agent in Layton with rentals in Ogden, drop me a line if you're interested in receiving listings in the area.

Peter

Post: State of the Real Estate game in Utah

Peter PearsonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Clearfield, UT
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 7

@Alexis Chavez

Up here in Layton, clearfield & Kaysville... 200-300k is a pipe dream, that’s certainly the sweet spot if you’re selling. When representing buyers, I’ve had to wait in lines to show property as well. Best of luck!

- Peter

Post: Ogden Utah Vacate Unit options

Peter PearsonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Clearfield, UT
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 7

@Peter Petwr

Great responses above, I agree with just talking to your tenants. That being said.. cash talks, I’ve burn a month of income to help re-home someone. If you have any investor friends in the area you can even get the ball rolling by seeing if they have any open places. Best of luck!

- Peter

Post: Newbie From Utah with a Plan

Peter PearsonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Clearfield, UT
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 7

@McKenna Garcia

Welcome! Let’s get your feet wet. I’m an investor realtor in Layton, PM me if you’d like to chat about your goals and how I can help you accomplish them!

Peter

Post: Looking for property manager in Davis County, Utah.

Peter PearsonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Clearfield, UT
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 7

@Quintin Mortensen

Investor/realtor/property manager living in Clearfield right now! I’d be happy to help, pm me. Moving to Layton next month too (which is only a couple miles away from me now!)

Peter

Post: Salt Lake County Real Estate Investing Tips

Peter PearsonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Clearfield, UT
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 7

Great replies so far!

I bought a couple duplexes in Ogden a couple years ago that easily met the 1% rule, since then I haven't found anything very close though.

I'm in luck though because I switched my strategy to renting by the room! Currently, I like to buy houses with close to equal # of bed/bath and 3-5 in driveway parking spots (if there's room I'll just add a large rv pad for extra parking. Then I generally live in them for a year or two while finishing up a basement and living in it too (all this helps if you're single)! I've noticed the guys/gals renting from me are happy to have nicer than average living conditions, beefed up wifi, and all bills included into what they're renting. By doing this, I generally cash flow only a $100-200/mo, but that jumps to around $700 the day I find the next property and move out.

Pros to this: Free living w/ a little cashflow monthly; sweat equity = $ down the road; able to acquire nicer housing w/ less repairs needed to be done; loans are cheaper to acquire also!

Cons: I haven't found a property manager (other than myself), that would touch a house like this with a 10' pole. So it's just better to manage yourself. You have to find the right functuay of people that are comfortable and open with each other to make a living situation like this work well, this is where it's extremely important to be a great judge of character/vette your tenants well.

Hope this helps in some way! Best of luck, if you need help from an investor/realtor/military guy drop me a PM!

Peter

Post: How long from when you started to your first property?

Peter PearsonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Clearfield, UT
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 7

@Daniel Jenkins

Hi Daniel, I’m a real estate agent in the area and investor also. It took me 3-4 years of researching before I started in Ogden. PM me if you’re interested in an investor friends realtor in the area to help you out.

-Peter